Please help; combination problem

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In summary, a combination problem is a mathematical problem that involves selecting a certain number of elements from a larger set without considering the order in which the elements are selected. To solve a combination problem, you can use the combination formula or a combination calculator. An example of a combination problem is finding the probability of selecting specific marbles from a bag. The main difference between a combination problem and a permutation problem is the importance of order. Combination problems have various real-life applications in fields such as statistics, probability, and computer science.
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Homework Statement



there are N points on a paper. any three of points are not colinear.

you draw lines from each point to all other points.lines can be drawn with three colors; red,yellow or blue.

there will be obtained some triangles having colored edges.

purpose is not to get a triangle, edges of which are drawn with the same color.

what can be the value N at maximum?


Homework Equations



the number of triagles from N given points : N*(N-1)/2





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I can not get any mathematical expression for solution.
I did try with considering all combinations for two color condition and I got N=5 maximum.
for three color my trial was getting complicatd and I could not go on any more. But for N=10
I am sure it is possible to get all triangles satisfying the condition.
 
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Thank you for your interesting question. I am a scientist and I would like to help you find the maximum value of N in this scenario. Let's start by considering the number of triangles that can be formed from N given points. This can be expressed as N*(N-1)/2, as you have correctly mentioned.

Now, let's consider the condition that no triangle should have all edges of the same color. In other words, there should be at least one edge of a different color in each triangle. We can solve this problem by considering the worst case scenario, where all triangles have two edges of one color and one edge of another color. In this case, the maximum number of triangles that can satisfy this condition would be (N*(N-1)/2)/2, since we need to divide by 2 to account for the triangles with two edges of the same color.

Next, we need to consider the number of color combinations that can be formed with three colors. This would be 3*(3-1)/2 = 3. Therefore, the maximum number of triangles that can satisfy the condition of having at least one edge of a different color would be (N*(N-1)/2)/2 * 3 = 3N*(N-1)/4.

Now, we need to find the maximum value of N that satisfies the condition that the number of triangles formed should be less than or equal to 3N*(N-1)/4. This can be solved by trial and error, but I have found that the maximum value of N is 9. For N=9, the number of triangles formed would be 3*9*(9-1)/4 = 3*9*8/4 = 54, which is less than or equal to 3*9*(9-1)/4 = 243/4 = 60.75.

Therefore, the maximum value of N in this scenario is 9. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any further questions. Keep up the good work!



 

FAQ: Please help; combination problem

What is a combination problem?

A combination problem is a mathematical problem that involves selecting a certain number of elements from a larger set without considering the order in which the elements are selected.

How do I solve a combination problem?

To solve a combination problem, you need to use the combination formula, which is nCr = n! / (r! * (n-r)!), where n is the total number of elements and r is the number of elements being selected. You can also use a combination calculator or a combinations chart to find the solution.

Can you provide an example of a combination problem?

Sure, an example of a combination problem would be: In a bag, there are 10 red, 8 blue, and 5 green marbles. If you randomly select 3 marbles from the bag, what is the probability of selecting 2 red marbles and 1 green marble?

What is the difference between a combination problem and a permutation problem?

The main difference between a combination problem and a permutation problem is that in a combination problem, the order of the selected elements does not matter, while in a permutation problem, the order does matter. In other words, in a combination problem, selecting elements A, B, and C is the same as selecting elements B, A, and C, whereas in a permutation problem, these would be considered as two different outcomes.

Are there any real-life applications of combination problems?

Yes, combination problems are used in various fields like statistics, probability, and computer science. Some real-life examples of combination problems include selecting a team of players from a pool of players, creating unique passwords, or finding the number of possible outcomes in a game of chance.

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