Potential and wave number problem (concerning units)

In summary, the conversation discusses a potential for a molecule and the constants A and c that need to be calculated. The solution is found, but there are concerns about the units and deriving the values for c. The conversation also references the use of atomic units for energy and distance.
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Lindsayyyy
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Hi everyone I have the following problem:

Homework Statement



Give is the following potential for a molecule:

[tex]E_s(R)=E_s(\infty)-\frac {1}{R}+A*exp(-cR)[/tex]

whereas E_s(infinity)=1.49 eV. A and c are constants which I want to calculate. R(equilibrium) is given as 2.36 Angström and the wave number for the lowest state is v=364,6 cm^-1



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



So far so good I already got the solution for this, but I have troubles concerning the units. If you take a look at the potential you have 1/R [m^-1] and E_s(infninity) whichs unit is [eV].

When I try to calculate c I derive the potential and use that the second derivation is the feather constant. I come to:

[tex] c=k*{R_0}^2 +\frac {2}{R_0}[/tex]

whereas k is the feather constant and R0 the radius at the equilibrium.
The soluton for k should be: 0.0698 atomic units.

But I have no idea how to get there. I'm also conernced about the units because I only knew about N/m or kg/s^2 for k.

Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks in advance
 
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Not really enough information ... what are each of the constants supposed to represent physically?
i.e. if I take c=speed of light, then c=137 in Hartree atomic units.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_units
 
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That information is not given. The task says that A and c are just constants whereas I shall find the values of each.

If I look at the potential c must have the unit m^-1 and A Joule
 
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If I look at the potential c must have the unit m^-1 and A Joule
Not if you are using atomic units.
Energy is given in Hartree energies and distance as a multiple of the Bohr radius.

You can't just read the units off like that:
If you look at the original expression, that 1/R must have dimensions of energy right?
If R has dimensions of length, then the "1" in 1/R must have dimensions of energy x length ...

... that's why you need to know where things come from.
Though, as long as the algebra is right, then putting atomic units in will get you atomic units out.
From what I see, c and k should be dimensionless.
 
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Ok thank you,

I got the solution (the values of c and A) but I try to understand it. My first problem is that the solution says that the feather constants units are atomic units. How do I get there? (Value is written in my first post).
 
  • #6
I gave you a link to atomic units earlier - did you read it?
 

FAQ: Potential and wave number problem (concerning units)

What is potential and wave number?

Potential and wave number are terms used in the study of quantum mechanics. Potential refers to the amount of energy that a particle has, while wave number is a measure of the wavelength of a particle's wave function.

How are potential and wave number related?

Potential and wave number are mathematically related through the Schrödinger equation, which describes the behavior of quantum particles. The potential energy term in the equation is a function of the wave number.

What are the units for potential and wave number?

The units for potential are energy units, such as joules (J) or electron volts (eV). The units for wave number are reciprocal length units, such as inverse meters (m^-1) or inverse centimeters (cm^-1).

Why are the units for potential and wave number important?

The units for potential and wave number are important because they provide a way to measure and compare the energy and wavelength of different quantum particles. They also help in solving problems and equations involving these quantities.

Can potential and wave number have different units?

Yes, potential and wave number can have different units. In fact, the two quantities have different units by definition. It is important to use the correct units when working with potential and wave number in order to obtain accurate results.

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