Potential associated with a conservative force field F

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Given the potential energy, the force is obtained as F = -∇U(r). A conservative force field F is associated with a potential f by F = ∇f.
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Does the first expression arise from this last one? If so, with -∇U(r), would one obtain the electric field E instead of the force F?
Given the potential energy, the force is obtained as F = -∇U(r). A conservative force field F is associated with a potential f by F = ∇f. Does the first expression arise from this last one? If so, with -∇U(r), would one obtain the electric field E instead of the force F?
 
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[tex]F=-\nabla U[/tex]
is enough. I feel no necessity to introduce f of f=-U + const.
 
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Force, field and potential are 3 different things. But can be correlated each other. Field like E is a space deformation (can be due to an extra charge for example) then some field like the electrostatic can be associated to potential V, E= -nabla V is correct. Then when comes another charge q in the field Coulomb law acts and F=qE. So you have U(r)= qV(r).
V is generally determined with a constant. For electrical field V=0 when r is infinite.
Mathematically this constant disappears in calculation (derivation or integration)
 
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A force is a vector field, ##\vec{F}(\vec{x})##. If it's conservative, there exists a scalar potential, ##U##, then by definition
$$\vec{F}(\vec{x})=-\vec{\nabla} U(\vec{x}).$$
If ##\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{F}=0## in an open singly-connected neighborhood of a point, then there exists a potential (at least) in this neighborhood (Poincare's Lemma).

The potential is determined only up to an arbitrary additive constant. Indeed it's convenient to define it to go to 0 at infinity (if possible for the given force).
 
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Related to Potential associated with a conservative force field F

What is a conservative force field?

A conservative force field is one in which the work done by the force on an object moving between two points is independent of the path taken. In other words, the work done only depends on the initial and final positions of the object. This implies that the force can be derived from a potential energy function.

How is the potential energy function related to a conservative force field?

The potential energy function, often denoted as V, is a scalar function from which the conservative force field can be derived. The force field F is the negative gradient of the potential energy function, expressed mathematically as F = -∇V. This means that the force at any point is directed towards the region of decreasing potential energy.

What is the significance of the potential energy function being path-independent?

The path-independence of the potential energy function means that the work done by the force in moving an object between two points depends only on the potential energy difference between those points. This property is crucial because it allows the definition of potential energy, which simplifies the analysis of mechanical systems by reducing the problem to energy considerations rather than force considerations.

How can you determine if a force field is conservative?

A force field is conservative if the curl of the force field is zero, which mathematically means ∇ × F = 0. Another way to determine if a force field is conservative is to check if the work done around any closed path is zero. If either of these conditions is satisfied, the force field is conservative and a potential energy function exists.

What are some examples of conservative force fields?

Common examples of conservative force fields include gravitational fields, electrostatic fields, and spring forces in mechanics. In each case, the force can be derived from a potential energy function: gravitational potential energy for gravitational fields, electric potential energy for electrostatic fields, and elastic potential energy for spring forces.

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