Potential difference of concentric conducting shells

In summary, the conversation discusses how to find the potential difference between two concentric conducting spherical shells with equal and opposite charges. The process involves using Gauss's law to determine the electric field between the shells, and then integrating to find the potential difference. The conversation also mentions the importance of choosing the correct integration bounds and how the sign of the result may change depending on the direction of integration.
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Two concentric conducting spherical shells have equal and opposite charges. The inner shell has outer radius [itex]a[/itex] and charge [itex]+q[/itex]; the outer shell has inner radius [itex]b[/itex] and charge [itex]-q[/itex]. Find the potential difference [itex]V_{a}-V_{b}[/itex] between the shells

My professor said to in order to solve this, integrate the electric field to find the electric potential...

[itex]\Delta V = -\int\stackrel{\rightarrow}{E}dl[/itex]

My question is, using Gauss's Law, ([itex]\oint E_{n}dA = \frac{Q}{\epsilon}[/itex]), how do I go about finding Q?

Isn't Q just the charge of the shell?
 
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In Gauss's law, Q is the charge enclosed by your Gaussian surface. So, first decide where you Gaussian surface will be, then add up all the charge inside of it.

HINT: You want your surface to be in the region where you want to find the electric field.
 
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G01 said:
In Gauss's law, Q is the charge enclosed by your Gaussian surface. So, first decide where you Gaussian surface will be, then add up all the charge inside of it.

HINT: You want your surface to be in the region where you want to find the electric field.

This is what I have drawn (see attachment). Is the basic idea here to integrate the electric field of the outer Gaussian surface from b to a? If so, what about the inner Gaussian surface?
 

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You want to find the potential difference between the shells, so you don't need the Gaussian surface outside the larger shell.

Try this: Take your inner surface and place it at an arbitrary point r. Then, find E using the standard approach when using Gauss's law. You will then have E between the plates as a function of r. Can you use that to find the potential difference between the plates?
 
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G01 said:
You want to find the potential difference between the shells, so you don't need the Gaussian surface outside the larger shell.

Try this: Take your inner surface and place it at an arbitrary point r. Then, find E using the standard approach when using Gauss's law. You will then have E between the plates as a function of r. Can you use that to find the potential difference between the plates?

Alright... see attached image.

Now, how do i determine if i should integrate from a to b or from b to a?
 

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faint545 said:
Alright... see attached image.

Now, how do i determine if i should integrate from a to b or from b to a?

That all looks good.

As far as your integration bounds are concerned, it doesn't matter. The sign of your end result will change, but that's just like hooking up a voltmeter in reverse: You will still get the right pot. difference, just the sign will change.
 
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thanks for your guidance
 
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faint545 said:
thanks for your guidance

No problem! :smile:
 

FAQ: Potential difference of concentric conducting shells

What is the definition of potential difference?

Potential difference, also known as voltage, is the difference in electrical potential between two points in an electrical circuit. It is measured in volts and represents the amount of energy needed to move a unit of electric charge from one point to another.

How is potential difference calculated?

Potential difference can be calculated by dividing the amount of work or energy required to move a unit of charge by the amount of charge moved. Mathematically, it can be expressed as V = W/Q, where V is voltage, W is work, and Q is charge.

What are concentric conducting shells?

Concentric conducting shells are a set of conducting surfaces that are arranged in a series of concentric circles or spheres. These shells are made of materials that allow electric charge to flow through them easily, such as metal.

How does potential difference vary between concentric conducting shells?

The potential difference between concentric conducting shells can be calculated using the formula V = kQ/R, where k is a constant, Q is the amount of charge on the inner shell, and R is the distance between the two shells. As R increases, the potential difference decreases, and as R decreases, the potential difference increases.

What is the significance of potential difference in concentric conducting shells?

The potential difference between concentric conducting shells plays a crucial role in determining the flow of electric current between the shells. It is also important in understanding the behavior of electric fields and the distribution of charge within the shells.

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