Potential Energy Problem: Pulling a Chain up onto a Table

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In summary, the problem involves calculating the potential energy change when a chain is pulled from a hanging position to rest on a table. The chain has a uniform mass distribution, and as it is lifted, portions of it transition from a lower gravitational potential to a higher one. The analysis requires integration to account for the varying length of the chain that remains hanging as it is pulled up, ultimately leading to a formula that expresses the work done in terms of the chain's mass and height.
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Homework Statement
A chain is held on a frictionless table with one fourth of its length hanging over the edge. If the chain has length L = 0.28 m and mass m = 0.012 kg, how much work is required to pull
the hanging part back onto the table?
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Potential energy dU
So, the first thing that came to mind when I was trying to figure out how to set this up is that it will be a dU problem. After trying to figure out how to set it up to no avail, I took a look at how they solved it in the solutions manual. It's making absolutely no sense to me...

They state "note that the mass of a segment is (m/L) dy". I'm completely lost on that part, as to why "L" is in the denominator? Wouldn't that setup mean that the smaller "L" is, the larger the mass, to the point where it becomes infinite if it is infinitesimally small??? I'm not seeing the sense behind how they've set it up, as from what I'm thinking, they're basically stating the shorter the length, the larger the mass. Can someone help me to view this correctly so I can understand why it is set up the way it is?
 
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It shows the dependence between the mass and the length, which can be expressed as kg/m, for example.
Since length L = 0.28 m and mass m = 0.012 kg, we can say that this chain has a linear mass of 0.012/0.28 = 0.0428 kg/m.
 
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They state "note that the mass of a segment is (m/L) dy". I'm completely lost on that part, as to why "L" is in the denominator?
The total length of the chain is ##L## and the total mass is ##m##. If ##\Delta y## is the length of a segment of the chain, the mass of this segment is a fraction of the total mass ##m##. For example, suppose ##\dfrac {\Delta y} L## is ##\dfrac1 {10}## so that ##\Delta y## is one-tenth of ##L##. In this case, the mass of the segment ##\Delta y## will be ##\dfrac1 {10}## of the total mass ##m##. That is, $$(\text{mass of segment of length } \Delta y) = \frac {\Delta y} L \cdot m$$ This can be rewritten as $$(\text{mass of segment of length } \Delta y) = \frac m L \cdot \Delta y$$

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Wouldn't that setup mean that the smaller "L" is, the larger the mass, to the point where it becomes infinite if it is infinitesimally small???

For a given type of chain, the mass of a segment of length ##\Delta y## does not depend on the total length ##L## of the chain. If ##L## were cut in half, the total mass ##m## would also be reduced by one-half. But the ratio ##\dfrac m L## would not change. So, according to the formula above, the mass of a segment ##\Delta y## is not changed when ##L## is changed.
 
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Thanks to both of you. I get it now. It's a little late for me to get back to the problem, but I'm going to revisit it tomorrow and make sure it all makes sense now. I believe it should. I appreciate the help, thank you
 
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FAQ: Potential Energy Problem: Pulling a Chain up onto a Table

What is potential energy in the context of pulling a chain onto a table?

Potential energy refers to the energy stored in an object due to its position in a gravitational field. In the context of pulling a chain onto a table, the potential energy increases as the chain is lifted from a lower position to a higher position on the table, as the height of the chain above the ground increases.

How do you calculate the potential energy of the chain as it is being pulled up?

The potential energy (PE) of the chain can be calculated using the formula PE = mgh, where m is the mass of the chain being lifted, g is the acceleration due to gravity (approximately 9.81 m/s²), and h is the height to which the chain is lifted. As portions of the chain are lifted, the height will vary depending on how much of the chain is still hanging off the table.

What factors affect the potential energy of the chain?

The potential energy of the chain is affected by several factors, including the total mass of the chain, the height to which it is lifted, and the gravitational acceleration. The more mass there is and the higher the chain is lifted, the greater the potential energy will be.

How does the length of the chain influence the potential energy calculation?

The length of the chain influences the calculation of potential energy because only the portion of the chain that is lifted contributes to the potential energy. As you pull the chain onto the table, you must consider the average height of the chain being lifted, which changes as more of the chain is pulled up.

What is the work done in pulling the chain onto the table?

The work done in pulling the chain onto the table is equal to the change in potential energy of the chain. This can be calculated by integrating the force required to lift each infinitesimal segment of the chain over the distance it is raised. Essentially, it involves calculating the total work done against gravity as the chain is lifted from its initial position to the final position on the table.

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