POTW #354: Find Possible Value of a-b When $x^2-x-1$ Divides $ax^{17}+bx^{16}+1$

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In summary, the polynomial $x^2-x-1$ is a factor of $ax^{17}+bx^{16}+1$, meaning that the remainder when dividing the two polynomials is equal to zero. To find the possible values of a and b, we can set the polynomial equal to $k(x^2-x-1)$ and use polynomial division. However, the values of a and b are not unique and must follow the restriction that the degree of $ax^{17}+bx^{16}+1$ is not greater than the degree of $x^2-x-1$. Other methods, such as the Remainder Theorem or setting up a system of equations, can also be used to solve this
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If $x^2-x-1$ divides $ax^{17}+bx^{16}+1$ for integer $a$ and $b$, find the possible value of $a-b$.

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Congratulations to the following members for their correct solution!(Cool)

1. castor28
2. Opalg
3. Olinguito
4. lfdahl
5. kaliprasad

Solution from Opalg:
The golden ratio $\phi = \frac{1+\sqrt5}2$ is a root of $x^2-x-1=0$. So if that quadratic divides $ax^{17} + bx^{16} + 1$ then $a\phi^{17} + b\phi^{16} + 1 = 0$. But the powers of $\phi$ are given by $\phi^n = F_n\phi + F_{n-1}$, where $F_n$ is the $n$th Fibonacci number. Therefore $$a(F_{17}\phi + F_{16}) + b(F_{16}\phi + F_{15}) + 1 = 0.$$ Now substitute $\phi = \frac{1+\sqrt5}2$ into that equation. If $a$ and $b$ are integers then the rational part of the left side of the equation, and the part involving multiples of $\sqrt5$, must both be zero. So $$\tfrac12 aF_{17} + aF_{16} + \tfrac12 bF_{16} + bF_{15} + 1 = 0,$$ $$aF_{17} + bF_{16} = 0,$$ and therefore $ aF_{16} + bF_{15} + 1 = 0.$

Write the equations $ aF_{16} + bF_{15} + 1 = 0$ and $ aF_{17} + bF_{16} = 0$ as $$(a-b)F_{16} + b(F_{15} + F_{16}) + 1 = 0,$$ $$(a-b)F_{17} + b(F_{16} + F_{17}) = 0.$$ From the Fibonacci property $F_n + F_{n-1} = F_{n+1}$ it follows that $$(a-b)F_{16} + bF_{17} + 1 = 0,$$ $$(a-b)F_{17} + bF_{18} = 0.$$ Solve those as simultaneous equations, multiplying the first one by $F_{18}$ and the second one by $F_{17}$, and subtracting: $$(a-b)(F_{16}F_{18} - F_{17}^2) + F_{18} = 0.$$ Then the Fibonacci property $F_n^2 - F_{n-1}F_{n+1} = (-1)^{n-1}$ gives $a-b = F_{18}$. The 18th Fibonacci number is $2584$, so the conclusion is that $a-b = 2584.$

Alternate solution from kaliprasad:
If $x^2-x-1$ divides $ax^{17}+bx^{16} + 1$ then $x^2=x+1$ => $ax^{17}+bx^{16} + 1 = 0$
The above is so because x =t which is root of $x^2= x+1$ is also a root of $ax^{17}+bx^{16} + 1= 0$
We have $x^2=x+1$
Putting $y=\frac{1}{x}$ we get $\frac{1}{y^2} = \frac{1}{y} +1$
or $y^2 = 1 - y$
or $y^4 = (1-y)^2 = 1-2y +y^2 = (1-2y) + (1-y) = 2-3y$
or $y^8 = (2-3y)^2 = 4-12y +9y^2 = (4-12y) + 9(1-y) =13-21y$
or $y^{16} = (13-21y)^2 = 169-546y +441y^2 = (169-546y) + 441(1-y) = 610-987y$
or $y^{17} = 610y-987y^2 = 610y - 987(1-y) = 1597y - 987$
Putting back $x=\frac{1}{y}$ we get
$\frac{1}{x^{17}} = \frac{1597}{x} - 987$
Or $987x^{17} - 1597x^{16} +1 $ = 0

Comparing with above we get a = 987, b = - 1597 so a - b = 2584
 

Related to POTW #354: Find Possible Value of a-b When $x^2-x-1$ Divides $ax^{17}+bx^{16}+1$

1. What is the significance of the polynomial $x^2-x-1$ in this problem?

The polynomial $x^2-x-1$ is the divisor in the given problem. In other words, we are looking for values of $a$ and $b$ that make the expression $ax^{17}+bx^{16}+1$ divisible by $x^2-x-1$. This means that when we divide $ax^{17}+bx^{16}+1$ by $x^2-x-1$, the remainder should be equal to 0.

2. How can we find the possible values of $a$ and $b$?

To find the possible values of $a$ and $b$, we can use the remainder theorem. This states that if a polynomial $f(x)$ is divided by a polynomial $g(x)$, the remainder is equal to $f(c)$, where $c$ is the root of $g(x)$.

3. Can we use synthetic division to solve this problem?

Yes, synthetic division can be used to solve this problem. It is a quick and efficient method for dividing polynomials and finding the remainder. However, it is important to note that synthetic division can only be used if the divisor is in the form of $x-c$, where $c$ is a constant.

4. Is there a specific method to follow when solving this problem?

Yes, there are certain steps that can be followed to solve this problem. First, we need to find the roots of the divisor $x^2-x-1$. Then, we can use the remainder theorem to find the possible values of $a$ and $b$. Finally, we can use synthetic division to check if the values of $a$ and $b$ satisfy the condition of the problem.

5. Are there any real-world applications of this problem?

Yes, this problem can be applied in various fields such as engineering, economics, and physics. For example, in engineering, this problem can be used to find the maximum and minimum values of a function, which can be helpful in optimizing designs. In economics, this problem can be used to analyze financial data and make predictions. In physics, this problem can be used to model and predict the behavior of physical systems.

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