Problem re. Force due to Angular Momentum

In summary, the conversation discusses a design project for a wood chipper that involves a rotating disk with attached blades. The problem being addressed is the calculation of the tangential force due to the angular momentum of the disk. The specifics of the disk properties, such as diameter, thickness, mass, and angular velocity, are mentioned. The disk is assumed to have uniform density and will be balanced by evenly placed blades. The resistive force needed to cut the timber is calculated and assumed to act at the maximum radius. Various methods, such as using the kinetic energy of the disk and dimensional analysis, have been tried to determine the force due to angular momentum. The importance of finding this force is emphasized and the individual is seeking help in approaching the
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I am working on an undergraduate design project to design a wood chipper. This involves a large rotating disk with blades attached, which cut the wood by means of an impact force. My problem is that I can’t figure out the force which will act tangentially to the circle due to the angular momentum of the disk. Obviously, a force will act tangentially due to the torque, and I have calculated this, but intuitively I know that a larger force can act due to the angular momentum of the disk.

Some specifics:

Disk Properties:

Diameter of disk: 1m
Thickness: 20mm
Mass: 122kg
Angular Velocity: 1000rpm
Torque: Undecided as of yet
Inertia: 15.24 kgm^2
Kinetic Energy of Disk at 1000rpm: ~ 83.6kJ

The disk can be modeled as having uniform density for simplicity, though obviously the presence of the blades will mean that in reality this is not the case. Furthermore, the disk will rotate steadily about its centre as a number of blades will be evenly placed so that the disk is balanced. Also, sufficient torque is provided to keep the disk spinning at constant angular velocity in the absence of the resistive force.

The resistive force, shown in the attached diagram, has been calculated as having magnitude of 610N (This is the force needed to cut the timber). I’m assuming that due to the torque, the disk will have the greatest difficulty in cutting the material at the furthest point from the centre, i.e. at max radius and so I am assuming that the resistive force acts at max radius, as a point force.

Inertia = 0.5MR^2
Kinetic Energy = 0.5Iω^2
Torque= Force x Distance

Methods Tried:

I’ve tried using the kinetic energy of the disk to see what effect the angular momentum of the disk will have. I calculated that it will take approx 26J to cut the wood and the disk has a kinetic energy many times larger than this. In effect this only told me what I already knew; that the angular momentum has a large effect on the cutting force. Also this does not take into account the radius at which the resistive force acts so ultimately isn’t much use.


Also tried to figure out the force by using dimensional analysis. Found that the force due to the angular momentum is :

Force =(k x Kinetic Energy of Disk)/r

Where k is a constant (I think) and r is the radius at which the force acts. This seems more promising as I feel it makes sense, however as I’ve no experimental data, I can’t see a way to find what k equals.

To restate: I am aware that the disk will provide a certain amount of force due to the torque of the disk, but think that a far greater cutting force will be applied by the angular momentum of the disk. It is thus the force due to the angular momentum that I think I need to find.

Finally, if any info is missing, I’m sure I probably have it, though I hope I’ve included all the relevant info. I reckon this problem just needs to be looked at in a different way so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

enkii
 

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Now,i have same project and same problem

any help please

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FAQ: Problem re. Force due to Angular Momentum

What is angular momentum and how does it relate to force?

Angular momentum is a measure of an object's rotational motion. It is calculated by multiplying the object's moment of inertia by its angular velocity. Angular momentum is conserved, meaning that it remains constant unless an external force acts on the object. In this case, the change in angular momentum is equal to the applied force multiplied by the time it acts.

How does the force due to angular momentum differ from other types of forces?

The force due to angular momentum is a special type of force that is only present in rotating objects. It is a tangential force that acts perpendicular to the object's rotational motion, causing it to change direction. Unlike other forces, it does not cause a change in the object's linear motion, but rather its rotational motion.

What are some real-world examples of the force due to angular momentum?

The force due to angular momentum can be observed in many everyday situations. A spinning top or gyroscope, for example, experiences a torque due to the force of gravity acting on its center of mass. This causes it to precess, or change its orientation. Another example is a figure skater spinning on the ice. By pulling in their arms, they decrease their moment of inertia and increase their angular velocity, causing them to spin faster.

How does the force due to angular momentum affect the stability of an object?

The force due to angular momentum plays a crucial role in the stability and balance of an object. If an object is rotating and no external forces act on it, its angular momentum will remain constant and it will continue to rotate at a constant rate. However, if the object experiences a torque due to an external force, its angular momentum will change and it may become unstable and begin to wobble or topple over.

Can the force due to angular momentum be used to do work?

Yes, the force due to angular momentum can be used to do work. For example, in a wind turbine, the blades are designed to rotate due to the force of the wind, which creates a torque and changes the blades' angular momentum. This rotational motion is then used to generate electricity, demonstrating that the force due to angular momentum can be harnessed to do useful work.

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