Product Rule Proof: Solve Using Limits

In summary, you are asking how to get the derivative of the function between the parentheses, which is written as (fg). The first step is to apply the derivative definition, which is (f(x)g(x)).
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I know there are other ways to obtain the product rule proff but my teacher got me started and I want to finish it this way and also have you guys explain WHY to do each step.

So far I have:

(f(x)g(x))' = f'(x)g(x) + f(x)g'(x)

lim (F(x+h) - F(x))/h as h->0

lim (f(x+h)g(x+h) - f(x)g(x))/h as h->0

and now I'm stuck, lol, thanks!
 
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So all you've done is to apply the definition of "derivative" to (fg)'(x)? That's the obvious first step. I'm confused by the fact that you're saying that you want to do it your way, when you're not actually suggesting a way to proceed.

The standard trick is similar to this: [tex]\frac{A-B}{h}=\frac{A+0-B}{h}=\frac{A+(-C+C)-B}{h}=\frac{(A-C)+(C-B)}{h}[/tex] You just need to choose an appropriate thing to add and subtract from the numerator, something like the C in my example. Note that the above is true no matter what C is, so you can choose it to be anything you want it to be.

I don't like the notation (f(x)g(x))' because (something)' is supposed to mean "the derivative of the function between the parentheses", but f(x)g(x) isn't a function. It's a number. You want the derivative of "the function that takes x to f(x)g(x) for all x". This function is denoted by fg, not f(x)g(x). Just to clarify that last point: fg is the function defined by [itex](fg)(x)=f(x)g(x)[/itex] for all x.
 
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Fredrik said:
So all you've done is to apply the definition of "derivative" to (fg)'(x)? That's the obvious first step. I'm confused by the fact that you're saying that you want to do it your way, when you're not actually suggesting a way to proceed.

The standard trick is similar to this: [tex]\frac{A-B}{h}=\frac{A+0-B}{h}=\frac{A+(-C+C)-B}{h}=\frac{(A-C)+(C-B)}{h}[/tex] You just need to choose an appropriate thing to add and subtract from the numerator, something like the C in my example. Note that the above is true no matter what C is, so you can choose it to be anything you want it to be.

I don't like the notation (f(x)g(x))' because (something)' is supposed to mean "the derivative of the function between the parentheses", but f(x)g(x) isn't a function. It's a number. You want the derivative of "the function that takes x to f(x)g(x) for all x". This function is denoted by fg, not f(x)g(x). Just to clarify that last point: fg is the function defined by [itex](fg)(x)=f(x)g(x)[/itex] for all x.
Thank you! I always knew that you have to add and subtract the same quantity but the way you wrote it was very crisp, clear, and added a bit of "rigor" for lack of better words to the technique! It would definitely help in future proofs.

OP, don't be disappointed if you are a bit confused. This type of proof can be a bit tricky because the techniques seems unmotivated and random. Reply back and we will help you out!
 
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I write
f(x+h)=f(x)+[f(x+h)-f(x)]
g(x+h)=g(x)+[g(x+h)-g(x)]
 
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lurflurf said:
I write
f(x+h)=f(x)+[f(x+h)-f(x)]
g(x+h)=g(x)+[g(x+h)-g(x)]

How do you get to that conclusion? Can you pronounce your lines of thought behind the reasoning above?

Edit: Hmm clever. I see it now. Would that make it easier to prove the problem?
 

FAQ: Product Rule Proof: Solve Using Limits

What is the product rule?

The product rule is a mathematical rule used to find the derivative of a product of two functions. It states that the derivative of a product of two functions is equal to the first function times the derivative of the second function, plus the second function times the derivative of the first function.

How do you prove the product rule using limits?

To prove the product rule using limits, you must first rewrite the product of two functions as a single function using the product rule. Then, you can use the definition of the derivative and the limit laws to simplify the expression and show that it is equivalent to the product rule.

Why is the product rule important?

The product rule is important because it allows us to find the derivative of a product of two functions without having to use the limit definition every time. It is a fundamental rule in calculus and is used in many applications, such as optimization and related rates problems.

What are some common mistakes when using the product rule?

Some common mistakes when using the product rule include forgetting to apply the rule correctly, not simplifying the expression after applying the rule, and not using proper notation for the derivatives. It is important to take your time and be careful when using the product rule to avoid these mistakes.

Can the product rule be extended to more than two functions?

Yes, the product rule can be extended to more than two functions. This is known as the generalized product rule and it states that the derivative of a product of n functions is equal to the first function times the derivative of the product of the remaining (n-1) functions, plus the second function times the derivative of the product of the remaining (n-1) functions, and so on.

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