Proof of angle in path difference formula for two slits

In summary, Kuruman's proof shows that the two thetas are equal, but he is wondering whether his assumption that the right angle circled in black can be proved. Is there a way to prove this?
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Homework Statement
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Relevant Equations
##r_2 - r_1 = d\sin\theta##
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I am trying to prove that angle theta between PQ and QO is equal to theta highlighted so that I know I can use theta is the path difference formula. I assume that the rays ##r_1## and ##r_2## are parallel since ##L >> d##
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My proof gives that the two thetas are equal, however I am wondering whether my assumption that the right angle circled in black can be proved. Is there a way to prove this?

Many thanks!
 
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Callumnc1 said:
My proof gives that the two thetas are equal, however I am wondering whether my assumption that the right angle circled in black can be proved. Is there a way to prove this?
It's a right angle if you draw a line starting at S1 perpendicular to the ray from S2. That's not the point. The point is whether, when you draw this perpendicular, the segment labeled ##\delta## is the path length difference between the rays from S1 and S2. That is the case when the rays are nearly parallel.
 
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You are free to choose that to be exactly a right angle before taking the limit that the screen is far away. Only in the limit are the distances delta and d easilly related to theta, but it can be shown that the approximation (not really an assumption) leads to errors that are very small in the Fraunhoffer (radiation) zone far from the slits.
 
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kuruman said:
It's a right angle if you draw a line starting at S1 perpendicular to the ray from S2. That's not the point. The point is whether, when you draw this perpendicular, the segment labeled ##\delta## is the path length difference between the rays from S1 and S2. That is the case when the rays are nearly parallel.
Thank you for your reply @kuruman!
 
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hutchphd said:
You are free to choose that to be exactly a right angle before taking the limit that the screen is far away. Only in the limit are the distances delta and d easilly related to theta, but it can be shown that the approximation (not really an assumption) leads to errors that are very small in the Fraunhoffer (radiation) zone far from the slits.
Thank you for your reply @hutchphd !

True, I guess it is an approximation not assumption that ## L >> d##. Sorry, what did you mean by errors very small in the Fraunhoffer zone?

Many thanks!
 
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You can look up Fraunhoffer zone. It is really that the diffraction angles aren't too large and that the d<< L. So all the angles are small, and the results are simple. This approximation (Fraunhoffer) works for things other two slit diffraction
 
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Might get better results if you search on "Fraunhofer" instead of "Fraunhoffer", although Google is pretty good at catching "obvious" spelling errorz. :cool:
 
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hutchphd said:
You can look up Fraunhoffer zone. It is really that the diffraction angles aren't too large and that the d<< L. So all the angles are small, and the results are simple. This approximation (Fraunhoffer) works for things other two slit diffraction
Thank you for your help @hutchphd!
 
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jtbell said:
Might get better results if you search on "Fraunhofer" instead of "Fraunhoffer", although Google is pretty good at catching "obvious" spelling errorz. :cool:
Thank you for your reply @jtbell!
 
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Related to Proof of angle in path difference formula for two slits

What is the path difference formula for two slits?

The path difference formula for two slits is given by \( \Delta d = d \sin \theta \), where \( \Delta d \) is the path difference between the two waves, \( d \) is the distance between the two slits, and \( \theta \) is the angle of diffraction.

How is the angle \( \theta \) determined in the path difference formula?

The angle \( \theta \) is determined by measuring the angle between the central maximum (the direct path) and the point where the path difference is being calculated. This angle is typically measured from the normal (perpendicular) to the plane of the slits.

Why is the angle \( \theta \) important in the path difference formula?

The angle \( \theta \) is important because it directly affects the path difference \( \Delta d \). The path difference determines whether the waves interfere constructively or destructively, which in turn influences the pattern of bright and dark fringes observed in the interference pattern.

What role does the distance between the slits \( d \) play in the path difference formula?

The distance between the slits \( d \) is a crucial parameter in the path difference formula. A larger slit separation \( d \) increases the path difference for a given angle \( \theta \), which can affect the position and spacing of the interference fringes.

Can the path difference formula be applied to any type of wave?

Yes, the path difference formula can be applied to any type of wave, including light, sound, and water waves, as long as the waves are coherent and monochromatic. The principle behind the formula is based on the wave nature of light and interference, which is applicable to all types of waves.

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