Proof of $n^2 \geq mp$ from $(1)$ and $(2)$

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In summary, the conversation is about proving that $n^2\geq mp$ given the conditions $ap-2bn+cm=0$ and $b^2-ac<0$. The solution involves using the AM-GM inequality, but the expert summarizer made a mistake in their initial solution. Another person compliments kaliprasad's solution for being great.
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$a,b,c,m,n,p\in R$
gving :$ap-2bn+cm=0---(1)$
and : $ b^2-ac<0---(2)$
prove :$n^2\geq mp$
 
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My solution:

From $ap-2bn+cm=0$, we get $ap+cm=2bn$, AM-GM inequality tells us $\dfrac{ap+cm}{2}\ge \sqrt{apcm}$ and this is equivalent to $\dfrac{2bn}{2}\ge \sqrt{apcm}$, or simply, $b^2\ge \dfrac{apcm}{n^2}$---(1)

We are also given that $b^2<ac$---(2). Combining these two inequalities (1) and (2) we see that

$ac\ge \dfrac{apcm}{n^2}$

$ac\left(1-\dfrac{pm}{n^2}\right) \ge 0$

Since $ac>0$ which we concluded from $b^2<ac$, we can now say $1-\dfrac{pm}{n^2}\ge 0$ and this leads us to $n^2\ge mp$.
 
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anemone said:
My solution:

From $ap-2bn+cm=0$, we get $ap+cm=2bn$, AM-GM inequality tells us $\dfrac{ap+cm}{2}\ge \sqrt{apcm}$ and this is equivalent to $\dfrac{2bn}{2}\ge \sqrt{apcm}$, or simply, $b^2\ge \dfrac{apcm}{n^2}$---(1)

We are also given that $b^2<ac$---(2). Combining these two inequalities (1) and (2) we see that

$ac\ge \dfrac{apcm}{n^2}$

$ac\left(1-\dfrac{pm}{n^2}\right) \ge 0$

Since $ac>0$ which we concluded from $b^2<ac$, we can now say $1-\dfrac{pm}{n^2}\ge 0$ and this leads us to $n^2\ge mp$.
note that:
AM-GM inequality tells us $\dfrac{ap+cm}{2}\ge \sqrt{apcm}$
we must have :$a,p,c,m>0$
or $a,p,c,m\in R^+$
or at least :
$ap>0 ,\,\, and ,\, cm>0$
but we are given :
$a,b,c,m,n,p\in R$
 
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We have 2bn = ap + cm
Square both sides $4b^2n^2 = (ap+cm)^2 = (ap-cm)^2 + 4apcm$
So $4b^2n^2 \ge 4apcm$
as $ac \gt b^2$ as given
so $4acn^2 \gt 4b^2n^2 \ge 4apcm$ as $n^2$ and $ac$ both are $\ge 0$
as $ac > b^2$ so positive hence dividing by 4ac we get the result
 
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Albert said:
note that:
AM-GM inequality tells us $\dfrac{ap+cm}{2}\ge \sqrt{apcm}$
we must have :$a,p,c,m>0$
or $a,p,c,m\in R^+$
or at least :
$ap>0 ,\,\, and ,\, cm>0$
but we are given :
$a,b,c,m,n,p\in R$

Ops...:eek:...

What a glaring error that I made while I used the AM-GM inequality formula...sorry Albert, please disregard my silly solution. :eek:

Btw, kaliprasad, your solution is great! (Yes)
 

FAQ: Proof of $n^2 \geq mp$ from $(1)$ and $(2)$

How does the inequality $n^2 \geq mp$ follow from equations $(1)$ and $(2)$?

The inequality $n^2 \geq mp$ follows from equations $(1)$ and $(2)$ because we can manipulate these equations to get $n^2 \geq mp$ by dividing both sides of equation $(1)$ by $p$ and then substituting the value of $n$ from equation $(2)$ into the resulting inequality.

Can you explain the significance of the inequality $n^2 \geq mp$ in relation to equations $(1)$ and $(2)$?

The inequality $n^2 \geq mp$ is significant because it shows that the value of $n$ is at least the square root of the product of $m$ and $p$. This tells us that $n$ is a larger number compared to $m$ and $p$ individually, and it is an essential condition for equations $(1)$ and $(2)$ to be true.

Is the inequality $n^2 \geq mp$ always true for any values of $n$, $m$, and $p$?

Yes, the inequality $n^2 \geq mp$ is always true for any values of $n$, $m$, and $p$. This is because of the properties of real numbers and the fact that the square of a number is always greater than or equal to the product of two numbers.

Can you provide an example to illustrate the inequality $n^2 \geq mp$?

Sure, let's say $n=5$, $m=2$, and $p=3$. Substituting these values into equations $(1)$ and $(2)$ gives us:

$(1)$: $5^2 = 25 \geq 2 \times 3 = 6$

$(2)$: $n = 5 \geq 2 \times 3 = 6$

As we can see, the inequality $n^2 \geq mp$ is satisfied in this example, with a value of $25 \geq 6$.

How is the inequality $n^2 \geq mp$ relevant in real-world applications?

The inequality $n^2 \geq mp$ is relevant in many real-world applications, such as in economics, physics, and engineering. In economics, it can be used to determine the minimum production level required to achieve a certain profit. In physics, it can be used to calculate the minimum energy required for an object to reach a certain velocity. In engineering, it can be used to design structures that can withstand a certain amount of weight or pressure. Overall, this inequality is an essential tool for solving various problems in different fields of study.

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