Proof or counterexaample of Floor 7 Ceiling

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In summary, the first part of the conversation discusses the concept of floor and ceiling definitions for real numbers. Floor(x) is defined as the largest integer less than or equal to x, while ceiling(x) is the smallest integer greater than or equal to x. The second part of the conversation addresses the equation for odd integers, where the ceiling of n/2 is equal to (n+1)/2. However, the first statement regarding the ceiling of x,y is unclear and requires further clarification.
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Homework Statement



For all real numbers x and y, ceiling of x,y = ceiling of x times ceiling of y
For all odd integers n, ceiling of n/2 = (n+1)/2

Homework Equations



definition floor: floor of x = n n<or equal to x < n+1
definition ceiling: ceiling of x=n n-1 < x <orequal to n.

The Attempt at a Solution



No idea where to even start. I don'r quite understand the concept and floor & ceiling.
 
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nastygoalie89 said:

Homework Statement



For all real numbers x and y, ceiling of x,y = ceiling of x times ceiling of y
I don't understand what you are asking in the problem above. What does "ceiling of x, y" mean?
nastygoalie89 said:
For all odd integers n, ceiling of n/2 = (n+1)/2
This one is straightforward. If n is odd, then n/2 will have a fractional part that is 1/2 or .5.
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definition floor: floor of x = n n<or equal to x < n+1
definition ceiling: ceiling of x=n n-1 < x <orequal to n.
Your definitions are not precise enough to be helpful. floor(x) is the largest integer that is less than or equal to x. For example, floor(2) = 2, and floor (1.99) = 1

ceiling(x) is the smallest integer that is greater than or equal to x. For example, ceiling(5) = 5, and ceiling(1.01) = 2.
nastygoalie89 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



No idea where to even start. I don'r quite understand the concept and floor & ceiling.
 
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Is your first question whether the following statement is true or false?

[tex]
\text{ceiling}(x \times y) = \text{ceiling}(x) \times \text{ceiling}(y)
[/tex]

If so - try a few test values for [itex] x [/itex] and [itex] y [/itex].
 

FAQ: Proof or counterexaample of Floor 7 Ceiling

What is "Floor 7 Ceiling" and why is it important in science?

"Floor 7 Ceiling" refers to a mathematical concept known as the floor and ceiling functions. These functions are used to round a number down or up to the nearest integer, respectively. They are important in science because they allow for more precise calculations and measurements, especially when dealing with data that cannot be expressed as a whole number.

How do the floor and ceiling functions work?

The floor function, denoted as ⌊x⌋, takes a number and rounds it down to the nearest integer. For example, ⌊4.7⌋ = 4. The ceiling function, denoted as ⌈x⌉, takes a number and rounds it up to the nearest integer. For example, ⌈4.2⌉ = 5. These functions are commonly used in computer programming and mathematical equations.

Can you provide an example of the floor and ceiling functions in action?

Sure! Let's say we have a scientific experiment that measures the length of a plant in centimeters. The plant's length is 12.3 cm, but we need the measurement to be a whole number. Using the floor function, we can round the measurement down to 12 cm. Similarly, if we need to round up, we can use the ceiling function. If the plant's length is 12.7 cm, rounding up with the ceiling function would give us a measurement of 13 cm.

Are there any real-world applications for the floor and ceiling functions?

Yes, there are many real-world applications for these functions. They are commonly used in computer programming to manipulate and analyze data. They are also used in fields such as statistics, economics, and physics to round measurements and make calculations more precise. Additionally, they can be used in everyday situations like calculating the number of items needed to fill a certain space or determining the number of people that can fit in a room.

Is there a proof or counterexample for the floor 7 ceiling functions?

Yes, there is a proof for the floor and ceiling functions. It can be shown using mathematical logic and properties of real numbers. As for a counterexample, there is one for the floor function. If we take the number -5.5, the floor function would round it down to -6, which is not the nearest integer. However, there is no counterexample for the ceiling function, as it always rounds up to the nearest integer.

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