Prove $a^2+b^2\ge 8$ for real roots of $x^4+ax^3+2x^2+bx+1=0$

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In summary, the statement that needs to be proven is $a^2+b^2\ge 8$ for real roots of $x^4+ax^3+2x^2+bx+1=0$. This inequality represents a restriction on the values of the coefficients $a$ and $b$ in the given polynomial equation, and proving it is important to understand the relationship between the coefficients and the nature of the roots. The key steps in proving this statement involve analyzing the discriminant, using the quadratic formula, and using algebraic manipulation. This statement can also be generalized to other polynomial equations with real coefficients.
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Prove that $a^2+b^2\ge 8$ if $x^4+ax^3+2x^2+bx+1=0$ has at least one real root.

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Congratulations to Opalg for his correct solution(Cool), which you can find below:
If $x$ is a real root of $x^4 + ax^3 + 2x^2 + bx + 1 = 0$ then clearly $x$ cannot be $0$. So we can divide by $x^2$ and write the equation as $$\bigl(x+\tfrac1x\bigr)^2 = -\bigl(ax + \tfrac bx\bigr) = \bigl|ax + \tfrac bx\bigr|$$ (because the left side must be positive). By the Cauchy–Schwarz inequality, $$\bigl|ax + \tfrac bx\bigr| \leqslant \sqrt{a^2+b^2}\sqrt{x^2 + \tfrac1{x^2}} = \sqrt{a^2+b^2}\sqrt{\bigl(x+\tfrac1x\bigr)^2 - 2}.$$ Let $y = x+\frac1x$. Then it follows that $y^2 \leqslant \sqrt{a^2+b^2}\sqrt{y^2 - 2}.$

On the other hand, $0\leqslant (y^2-4)^2 = y^4 - 8y^2 + 16$, so that $y^4 \geqslant 8y^2-16$, and therefore $y^2 \geqslant \sqrt{8(y^2-2)}$.

Thus $\sqrt{a^2+b^2}\sqrt{y^2 - 2} \geqslant y^2 \geqslant \sqrt{8(y^2-2)}$. But $y^2 = \bigl(x+\tfrac1x\bigr)^2$, which has minimum value $4$, so that $\sqrt{y^2 - 2}$ is not zero and we can divide by it, to get $\sqrt{a^2+b^2} \geqslant \sqrt8$ and hence $a^2+b^2 \geqslant 8.$

Alternative solution from other:
Multiply though by 4 to obtain $4x^4+4ax^3+8x^2+4bx+4=0$.

Now, note that this can be rewritten
$x^2(2x+a)^2+(bx+2)^2+(8−a^2−b^2)x^2=0$

If we have $a^2+b^2<8$ then every term is non-negative, and they can't all be zero together (the last term would require $x=0$, but then $(bx+2)^2>0$).
 

FAQ: Prove $a^2+b^2\ge 8$ for real roots of $x^4+ax^3+2x^2+bx+1=0$

What does it mean for a polynomial to have "real roots"?

Having "real roots" means that the solutions to the polynomial equation are real numbers. In other words, the graph of the polynomial will intersect the x-axis at points where the x-coordinate is a real number.

How do you prove that $a^2+b^2\ge 8$ for real roots of $x^4+ax^3+2x^2+bx+1=0$?

To prove this statement, we can use the discriminant of the polynomial to determine the nature of its roots. If the discriminant is positive, then the polynomial will have two distinct real roots. By analyzing the coefficients of the polynomial, we can see that the discriminant is equal to $a^2+b^2-8$. Therefore, for the polynomial to have real roots, the discriminant must be greater than or equal to zero, which leads to the inequality $a^2+b^2\ge 8$.

Can you provide an example of a polynomial that satisfies the inequality $a^2+b^2\ge 8$ for real roots?

One example is the polynomial $x^4+2x^3+2x^2+2x+1=0$. In this case, $a=2$ and $b=2$, and we can see that $a^2+b^2=8$, satisfying the inequality.

Is there any other way to prove $a^2+b^2\ge 8$ for real roots without using the discriminant?

Yes, there are other ways to prove this statement. For example, we can use the Rational Root Theorem to find possible rational roots of the polynomial. If we find that none of these possible rational roots are actual roots of the polynomial, then we can conclude that the polynomial has only irrational or imaginary roots, and therefore $a^2+b^2\ge 8$ for real roots.

What implications does this inequality have in terms of the graph of the polynomial?

This inequality tells us that the graph of the polynomial will have a minimum value of 8 on the y-axis, meaning that it will never dip below the line $y=8$. This can also be seen by the fact that the polynomial has a constant term of 1, which will always contribute to the y-intercept of the graph. Additionally, this inequality can also help us determine the possible range of values for $a$ and $b$ if we want the polynomial to have real roots.

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