Prove a CG module is irreducible

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In summary: But this implies ##(-u+v)a = -ua + va = -\omega u + \omega^2v \in U##. Since ##-\omega u + \omega^2v## is not a scalar multiple of ##-u+v##, we have reached a contradiction.We can conclude ##\beta = 0##. By a similar argument, we can show ##\alpha = 0##. We can conclude ##U = \lbrace 0 \rbrace##, which contradicts our assumption that ##\dim U = 1##. This shows ##W## is irreducible.In summary, we have shown that ##W## is a ##\mathbb{C}G## module
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Homework Statement
Suppose ##G = D_6 = \langle a, b \vert a^3 = b^2 = 1, b^{-1}ab = a^{-1} \rangle## and let ##\omega = e^{2\pi i/3}##. Prove that the ##2## dimensional subspace ##W## of the ##\mathbb{C}G## defined by
$$W = sp(1 + \omega^2a + \omega a^2, b + \omega^2ab + \omega a^2b)$$

is an irreducible ##\mathbb{C}G##-submodule of the regular ##\mathbb{C}G## module.
Relevant Equations
Definitions:

We define ##\mathbb{C}G = \lbrace \sum_{g \in G} \mu_g g : \mu_g \in \mathbb{C} \rbrace##. For ##r \in \mathbb{C}G## and ##h \in G##, we define ##rh = \sum_{g \in G} \mu_g (gh)##.

We say ##W## is a ##\mathbb{C}G## submodule of ##\mathbb{C}G## if it is a subspace of ##\mathbb{C}G## and is satisfies ##wh \in W## for all ##w \in W## and ##h \in G##.

We say a ##\mathbb{C}G## module is irreducible if its only submodules are itself and ##\lbrace 0 \rbrace##.
Proof: We first show ##W## is a ##\mathbb{C}G## module. Let ##u = 1 + \omega^2a + \omega a^2## and ##v = b + \omega^2ab + \omega a^2b##. It is enough to show ##ua, ub, va, vb \in W##. We have\begin{align}
ua &= a + \omega^2a^2 + \omega \\
ub &= b + \omega^2ab + \omega a^2b \\
va &= ba + \omega^2 aba + \omega a^2ba = a^3b + \omega^2 b + \omega^2 ab\\
vb &= 1 + \omega^2a + \omega a^2 \\
\end{align}

Then ##ub = v \in W## and ##vb = u \in W##. But I do not see how to show ##ua## and ##va## are in ##W##. If I could do this, then I would have to show ##W## has no non trivial submodule. Suppose ##U## is a submodule of ##W## such that ##\dim U = 1##. Then ##U = sp( \alpha u + \beta v)## for some ##\alpha, \beta \in \mathbb{C}##. Since ##U## is a ##\mathbb{C}G## module, we must have ##xg \in U## for all ##x \in U## and ##g \in G##. In particular, we have ##(\alpha u + \beta v )b = \alpha v + \beta u##. So, there exists ##\lambda \in \mathbb{C}## such that ##\lambda(\alpha v + \beta u) = \alpha u + \beta v##. We can rewrite this as

$$(\lambda\beta)u + (\lambda\alpha)v = \alpha u + \beta v$$

Since ##u, v## are linearly independent, we have ##\lambda \beta = \alpha## and ##\lambda \alpha = \beta##. And this implies ##\lambda\beta = \lambda^{-1}\beta##. So, ##\lambda = \lambda^{-1}## or ##\beta = 0##. Does this seem on the right track?
 
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Homework Statement:: Suppose ##G = D_6 = \langle a, b \vert a^3 = b^2 = 1, b^{-1}ab = a^{-1} \rangle## and let ##\omega = e^{2\pi i/3}##. Prove that the ##2## dimensional subspace ##W## of the ##\mathbb{C}G## defined by
$$W = sp(1 + \omega^2a + \omega a^2, b + \omega^2ab + \omega a^2b)$$
is an irreducible ##\mathbb{C}G##-submodule of the regular ##\mathbb{C}G## module.
Relevant Equations:: Definitions:

We define ##\mathbb{C}G = \lbrace \sum_{g \in G} \mu_g g : \mu_g \in \mathbb{C} \rbrace##. For ##r \in \mathbb{C}G## and ##h \in G##, we define ##rh = \sum_{g \in G} \mu_g (gh)##.

We say ##W## is a ##\mathbb{C}G## submodule of ##\mathbb{C}G## if it is a subspace of ##\mathbb{C}G## and is satisfies ##wh \in W## for all ##w \in W## and ##h \in G##.

We say a ##\mathbb{C}G## module is irreducible if its only submodules are itself and ##\lbrace 0 \rbrace##.

Proof: We first show ##W## is a ##\mathbb{C}G## module. Let ##u = 1 + \omega^2a + \omega a^2## and ##v = b + \omega^2ab + \omega a^2b##. It is enough to show ##ua, ub, va, vb \in W##. We have
\begin{align}
ua &= a + \omega^2a^2 + \omega \\
ub &= b + \omega^2ab + \omega a^2b \\
va &= ba + \omega^2 aba + \omega a^2ba = a^3b + \omega^2 b + \omega^2 ab\\
vb &= 1 + \omega^2a + \omega a^2 \\
\end{align}

Then ##ub = v \in W## and ##vb = u \in W##. But I do not see how to show ##ua## and ##va## are in ##W##.

\begin{align*}
ua&=a+\omega^2a^2+\omega=\omega u\\
va&=uba=ua^{-1}b^{-1}=ua^2b=\omega uab=\omega^2ub=\omega^2v\\
\end{align*}

fishturtle1 said:
If I could do this, then I would have to show ##W## has no non trivial submodule. Suppose ##U## is a submodule of ##W## such that ##\dim U = 1##. Then ##U = sp( \alpha u + \beta v)## for some ##\alpha, \beta \in \mathbb{C}##. Since ##U## is a ##\mathbb{C}G## module, we must have ##xg \in U## for all ##x \in U## and ##g \in G##. In particular, we have ##(\alpha u + \beta v )b = \alpha v + \beta u##. So, there exists ##\lambda \in \mathbb{C}## such that ##\lambda(\alpha v + \beta u) = \alpha u + \beta v##. We can rewrite this as

$$(\lambda\beta)u + (\lambda\alpha)v = \alpha u + \beta v$$

Since ##u, v## are linearly independent, we have ##\lambda \beta = \alpha## and ##\lambda \alpha = \beta##. And this implies ##\lambda\beta = \lambda^{-1}\beta##. So, ##\lambda = \lambda^{-1}## or ##\beta = 0##. Does this seem on the right track?

Yes. This means you have ##\beta =0## or ##\lambda =\pm 1##. Now you need to find an argument why the latter cannot be, and do the same with ##\alpha .##
 
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\begin{align*}
ua&=a+\omega^2a^2+\omega=\omega u\\
va&=uba=ua^{-1}b^{-1}=ua^2b=\omega uab=\omega^2ub=\omega^2v\\
\end{align*}
Yes. This means you have ##\beta =0## or ##\lambda =\pm 1##. Now you need to find an argument why the latter cannot be, and do the same with ##\alpha .##
Thank you!

Continuing from above, we have ##\beta = 0## or ##\lambda = \pm 1##. We will show the latter is not possible. If ##\lambda = 1##, then ##\beta u + \alpha v = \alpha u + \beta v##. This implies ##(\beta - \alpha)u + (\alpha - \beta)v = 0##. Since ##u, v## are linearly independent, we have ##\alpha = \beta##. This implies ##U = sp(u + v)##. But this implies ##(u+v)a = ua + va = \omega u + \omega^2 v \in U##. Since ##\omega u + \omega^2 v## is not a scalar multiple of ##U##, we have reached a contradiction.

If ##\lambda = -1##, then ##-\beta u + -\alpha v = \alpha u + \beta v##. This implies ##(-\alpha - \beta)u + (-\alpha - \beta)v = 0##. Since ##u, v## are linearly independent, we have ##\alpha = -\beta##. This implies ##U = sp(-u + v)##. But this implies ##(-u+v)a = -ua + va = -\omega u + \omega^2v \in U##. Since ##-\omega u + \omega^2v## is not a scalar multiple of ##-u+v##, we have reached a contradiction.

We can conclude ##\beta = 0##. By a similar argument, we can show ##\alpha = 0##. We can conclude ##U = \lbrace 0 \rbrace##, which contradicts our assumption that ##\dim U = 1##. This shows ##W## is irreducible.
 
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Thank you!

Continuing from above, we have ##\beta = 0## or ##\lambda = \pm 1##. We will show the latter is not possible. If ##\lambda = 1##, then ##\beta u + \alpha v = \alpha u + \beta v##. This implies ##(\beta - \alpha)u + (\alpha - \beta)v = 0##. Since ##u, v## are linearly independent, we have ##\alpha = \beta##. This implies ##U = sp(u + v)##. But this implies ##(u+v)a = ua + va = \omega u + \omega^2 v \in U##. Since ##\omega u + \omega^2 v## is not a scalar multiple of ##U##, we have reached a contradiction.

If ##\lambda = -1##, then ##-\beta u + -\alpha v = \alpha u + \beta v##. This implies ##(-\alpha - \beta)u + (-\alpha - \beta)v = 0##. Since ##u, v## are linearly independent, we have ##\alpha = -\beta##. This implies ##U = sp(-u + v)##. But this implies ##(-u+v)a = -ua + va = -\omega u + \omega^2v \in U##. Since ##-\omega u + \omega^2v## is not a scalar multiple of ##-u+v##, we have reached a contradiction.

We can conclude ##\beta = 0##. By a similar argument, we can show ##\alpha = 0##. We can conclude ##U = \lbrace 0 \rbrace##, which contradicts our assumption that ##\dim U = 1##. This shows ##W## is irreducible.
Looks fine. Just one final question: Why are ##u,v## linear independent?
 
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Looks fine. Just one final question: Why are ##u,v## linear independent?
I think that is because ##W = sp(u, v)## and we are given ##\dim W = 2##. But i think that is circular?

Suppose there are scalars ##\lambda_1, \lambda_2## such that ##\lambda_1 u + \lambda_2 v = 0## where ##\lambda_1 \neq 0## or ##\lambda_2 \neq 0##. Multiplying by ##b## on both sides gives ##\lambda_1 v + \lambda_2 u = 0##. WLOG, suppose ##\lambda_1 \neq 0##. Then ##u + \lambda_1^{-1}\lambda_2v = 0## and ##v + \lambda_1^{-1}\lambda_2u = 0##. This implies ##u## and ##v## are scalar multiples of each other.

But any scalar multiple of ##u## looks like ##\lambda u = \lambda + \lambda\omega^2a + \lambda \omega a^2## i.e. it has a constant term. And ##v## does not have a constant term. We can conclude ##u## and ##v## are not scalar multiples of each other, which implies ##\lambda_1 = 0 = \lambda_2##?

I am not sure.
 
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But any scalar multiple of ##u## looks like ##\lambda u = \lambda + \lambda\omega^2a + \lambda \omega a^2## i.e. it has a constant term. And ##v## does not have a constant term.
Yes. That is the argument.

We obviously have ##u,v\neq 0## so ##0=\mu u+\nu v## can be written as ##u=\lambda v## (or the other way around, or ##\mu=\nu=0## in which case we are done). ##\lambda \in \mathbb{C}## so comparing the scalar component yields ##\lambda \cdot 1 =0## which implies ##u=0.## But ##u\neq 0.##
 
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FAQ: Prove a CG module is irreducible

What does it mean for a CG module to be irreducible?

Irreducibility in a CG module refers to the property of being unable to be broken down into smaller, simpler modules. It is a fundamental concept in group representation theory and is important in understanding the structure and behavior of a group.

How can I prove that a CG module is irreducible?

There are several methods for proving irreducibility in a CG module. One approach is to show that the module has no proper non-trivial submodules, meaning that there are no smaller modules that can be extracted from it. Another method is to use the character theory of the group to show that the module's character is irreducible.

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Proving irreducibility in a CG module has important implications for understanding the group's structure and its representation theory. It can also help in identifying the simple modules in a group, which are the building blocks for more complex modules.

Can a CG module be both reducible and irreducible?

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Yes, there are practical applications of proving irreducibility in CG modules. For example, it can be used in the study of molecular symmetry and in the analysis of crystal structures. It also has applications in physics, particularly in quantum mechanics and the study of particle physics.

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