Prove that integral is convergent

In summary, the conversation discusses the integral of x^alpha times (lnx)^ beta from 0 to 0.5 and the question of whether it converges when alpha is greater than -1. The methods attempted include finding a bound for log(x), using substitution, integration by parts, and the theory of multiplying by x^m. The final suggestion is to apply the test that states if \int_{-\infty}^0{g} converges and \lim_{x\rightarrow-\infty}{\frac{f}{g}}=0, then \int_{-\infty}^0{f} converges.
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elabed haidar
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Homework Statement



i need to know the integral of x^alpha times (lnx)^ beta from 0 to 0.5
the question is if alpha greater than -1 prove that integral convergent

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The Attempt at a Solution

 
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So what did you try?
 
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I don't think you'll be able to actually do that integral in closed form, but you can identify when it exists. You'll need to find a bound for log(x) as x approaches 0.
 
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i don't want to know what is the answer , i just want to prove how does it converge at zero
 
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i tried all methods
 
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Try a substitution first to get rid of the logarithm.
 
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i tried the neighbourhood at zero since the problem is at zero , but i don't think lnx has a neighbourhood at zero , so i tried change by varibale x= e^t but still didnt work
then i tried integration by parts , and that was a disaster I am stuck
and last i tried the theory which says that if you mulitply by x ^m where m is less than 1 and you reach the limit zero you will have a convergent integral but that only works with real numbers not variables so what do you think i should do? please make sure
 
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i tried
 
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So, what did you get?
 
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i told you in the other thread its the same question they told me to write where i told you
 
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What did you get after the substitution x=et?
 
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man it becomes from -infinte to zero et ^a times x ^beta but still nothing i cnt go anywhere with that
 
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So you get

[tex]\int_{-\infty}^0{e^{\alpha+1}t^\beta dt}[/tex]

right?

Now, apply partial integration to reduce the value of beta (i.e. to make beta negative)
 
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and what do i get please can you solve it i was trying all day please
 
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elabed haidar said:
and what do i get please can you solve it i was trying all day please

I'm sorry, that would be against the rules. I'm afraid you will have to solve it.

Alternatively, do you know the following test:

If [itex]\int_{-\infty}^0{g}[/itex] converges and [itex]\lim_{x\rightarrow-\infty}{\frac{f}{g}}=0[/itex], then [itex]\int_{-\infty}^0{f}[/itex] converges as well.

Applying this with an appropriate g could also give you the solution.
 
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To summarize everything so far (there have been a few errors), the original integral is

[tex]\int_0^{0.5} x^\alpha (\ln{x})^\beta dx [/tex]

Micromass suggested the substitution x = et, which leads to

[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{-\ln{2}} e^{t(\alpha + 1)} t^{\beta} dt [/tex]

Note that the upper limit is -ln(2) = ln(0.5), not 0.

From here, try parts with u = tβ. The following may help:

[tex]\int_a^b u dv = vu \; \big|_a^b - \int_a^b v du [/tex]

Specifically, for what values of [itex]\alpha[/itex] and [itex]\beta[/itex] will [itex]vu \; \big|_a^b[/itex] converge?
 
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Why not try looking at certain values of [itex]\beta[/itex], say for example [itex]\beta =1[/itex], then your integral becomes:
[tex]
\int_{0}^{\frac{1}{2}}x^{\alpha}\ln xdx=\int_{-\infty}^{-\ln 2}ye^{(\alpha +1)y}dy
[/tex]
upon using the substitution [itex]y=\ln x[/itex]. Now note that the interval of integration is over a negative region which means that [itex]\alpha +1>0[/itex] and so [itex]\alpha >-1[/itex], which is what we were trying to show in the first place. Can you now show this for general [itex]\beta[/itex]?
 

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