Proving Circle Symmetry through Rotation: Understanding the Equations

In summary, the conversation is about proving the symmetry of a circle by showing that x² + y² = a² holds when the circle rotates. The formulae x = x'cosθ - y'sinθ and y = x'sinθ + y'cosθ are used to prove this, but the origin of these equations is unclear. It is suggested to drop perpendiculars from the x' and y' axes to the x and y axes, respectively, and use properties of similar and right-angled triangles to find x in terms of x' and y'. The conversation also includes discussions about diagrams and browser settings.
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Homework Statement


http://tng.trekcore.com/1.JPG

I'm trying to prove that the circle is symmetrical by showing that x² + y² = a² holds when the circle rotates.

I know that this is proved given the following two formulae:
x = x'cosθ - y'sinθ
y = x'sinθ + y'cosθ

but I don't know where those two equations have come from based on my diagram. Help!
 
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Drop a perpendicular from where the x' axis cuts the circle to the x-axis and another perp from where the y' axis cuts the circle to the y-axis. Use some properties of similar triangles and right angled triangles.
 
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I've got the x'cosθ part of the expression for x, but I just cannot see how the -y'sinθ is found...

http://tng.trekcore.com/1.GIF
 
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My mistake for giving a hasty answer. Sorry.

Take a point P:(x,y) in the x-y system. Now draw x' and y' axes, rotated by some theta. If you drop perps from P on the x-axis and the x' axis, the first perp cuts the x-axis at a dist x from O and the 2nd perp cuts the x'-axis at a dist x' from O. Now, find x in terms of x' and y', using elementary geometry.
 
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Just out of curiosity, why was this posted under "Introductory Physics"?
 
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OK, i think I'm almost there,

I have the x'cosθ term, and I know I need to minus the purple section, which I trust is y'sinθ -- but I can't seem to show that it is, lol, it's the last stumbling block

http://tng.trekcore.com/2.GIF
 
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(HallsofIvy has asked you a question. I am also curious.)

Have you drawn the diagram as I said in my 2nd post? You can show us, if possible.
 
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EDIT: ignore
 
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Hi raintrek,

I'm not able to see the pictures you posted initially. Have you removed them, or is something wrong with my browser settings? Please answer asap.
 

FAQ: Proving Circle Symmetry through Rotation: Understanding the Equations

What is the definition of symmetry in a circle?

The symmetry of a circle refers to its ability to be divided into two equal halves that are mirror images of each other. In other words, any line drawn through the center of a circle will divide it into two congruent semicircles.

How can it be proven that a circle has rotational symmetry?

A circle has rotational symmetry because it can be rotated by any angle around its center and still maintain its original shape. This can be proven by using a protractor to measure the angle of rotation and observing that the circle remains unchanged.

What is the significance of the center point in a circle's symmetry?

The center point is the point of intersection for all lines of symmetry in a circle. It is significant because it acts as the rotational axis for the circle's symmetry, and any rotation around this point will preserve the circle's shape.

Can a circle have more than one line of symmetry?

Yes, a circle can have an infinite number of lines of symmetry. This is because any line passing through the center of a circle will divide it into two congruent halves, creating a line of symmetry. Additionally, any line that is perpendicular to a line of symmetry will also be a line of symmetry for the circle.

How is the symmetry of a circle used in real-world applications?

The symmetry of a circle is used in various real-world applications, such as in architecture, engineering, and design. For example, the symmetry of a circle is often utilized in the construction of circular buildings, bridges, and other structures. It is also commonly used in the design of circular logos, patterns, and artwork.

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