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In summary, the conversation discusses how to prove the existence of a number N such that n>N => t_n>x, given that (t_n) is a convergent sequence and its limit is greater than x. The attempt at a solution involves using epsilon proofs, but the argument is not fully clear. The concept of taking \epsilon= (L-x)/2 is suggested as a way to show that L-tn>0 and L>x implies tn>x. Further clarification is needed to complete the proof.
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The question asks to prove that if (t_n) is a convergent sequence and suppose that its limit is great than a number x. The prove that it exists a number N such that n>N => t_n>x

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to say that as (t_n) converge, (t_n - x) converges too.
And let lim(t_n - x) = k, for k in R (real).
Then for some e>0, there's a number N s.t. n>N => |(t_n-x)-k|< e
Take e=0, then |(t_n-x)-k|=0 => t_n-k = x,
since lim(t_n)>x then k must be positive => lim(t_n)>x.

can anyone tell me if i am going the wrong way??
I am afraid that my concept somewhere is wrong..
Thanks
 
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Generally speaking, when you write epsilon proofs, it's easier to follow the argument of the proof if you start by specifying what you want [itex]\epsilon[/itex] to be. (Even you worked your way back to it.)

You can't use [itex]\epsilon = 0[/itex] since that contradicts [itex]\epsilon > 0[/itex].

You need to be much more careful in the way you write things in general.
 
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Then can i rephrase it as follows:
As (t_n) converge, (t_n - x) converges too.
And let lim(t_n - x) = k, for k in R, k>0.
Then for some e>0, there's a number N s.t. n>N => 0<|(t_n-x)-k|< e
|(t_n-x)-k|>0 implies t_n - k>x, since k is positive, it follows that t_n>x.

does this sound right? (it seems like i am ignoring the use of e?)
if not, can you give me some idea on how to make the proof works?
Thanks.
 
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If L is the limit and L> x, then L-x> 0. What if you make [itex]\epsilon= (L-x)/2[/itex]?
 
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Thanks for replying!
When I have 2 situations, how can i show that when L-tn>0 (L>tn) and L>x actually implies tn>x?? Can you give me some idea?
 
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All I can do is repeat: if the limit L> x, then L-x> 0. What happens if you take [itex]\epsilon= (L-x)/2[/itex]?
 
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Well, it might also be hand to review the definition of convergent sequence...
 

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