Proving H is a subgroup of G, given

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In summary, you need to prove that if a is in H, then a-1 is in H as well. You also need to prove that e is in H.
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Homework Statement



Let G be an abelian group, k a fixed positive integer, and H = {a is an element of G; |a| divides k}. Prove that H is a subgroup of G.

Homework Equations



Definition of groups, subgroups, and general knowledge of division algorithm.

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that to prove H is a subgroup of G, I need to:
1) prove that it is closed (so if a and b are in H, ab is in H)
2) prove that if a is in H, then a-1 is in H as well.

I'm somewhat confused on how to proceed. To prove the first part, I suppose that ab is an element of H. Then we can write abn = k for some integer n. Because G is abelian, we can use associativity and commutativity to write (a)(bn) = k and (b)(an) = k. This clearly shows that a divides k and b divides k.

The problem is that I'm not sure if I went the wrong direction - meaning I supposed ab was in H, and proved a and b are in H.

I'm also at a loss on how to approach the second part. It's driving me mad because this is an "easy" problem and it's the one that's stumping me on this problem set.
 
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hari! said:

Homework Statement



Let G be an abelian group, k a fixed positive integer, and H = {a is an element of G; |a| divides k}. Prove that H is a subgroup of G.

Homework Equations



Definition of groups, subgroups, and general knowledge of division algorithm.

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that to prove H is a subgroup of G, I need to:
1) prove that it is closed (so if a and b are in H, ab is in H)
2) prove that if a is in H, then a-1 is in H as well.

You also need to prove

3) e is in H

I'm somewhat confused on how to proceed. To prove the first part, I suppose that ab is an element of H. Then we can write abn = k for some integer n. Because G is abelian, we can use associativity and commutativity to write (a)(bn) = k and (b)(an) = k. This clearly shows that a divides k and b divides k.

The problem is that I'm not sure if I went the wrong direction - meaning I supposed ab was in H, and proved a and b are in H.

Yes, you went in the wrong direction. You need to start from a,b in H. So you start from knowing that ak=e and bk=e. And you need to prove (ab)k=e.

I'm also at a loss on how to approach the second part. It's driving me mad because this is an "easy" problem and it's the one that's stumping me on this problem set.

Here you need to prove that if a in H, then a-1 is in H. So if ak=e, then (a-1)k=e.
 
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I'm not sure I follow; the problem states that |a| divides k, not that k is the order of any element in the subgroup. So how do we know that ak = e for any a in H?
 
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hari! said:
So how do we know that ak = e for any a in H?

Since the order of any element a divides k, let the order of some element a be n. then, n times some integer, say, j, equals k. So, ak=anj=(an)j...see how this equals e?
 
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I'm a little ashamed to say this, but I was reading |a| as absolute value of a, not order of a. This makes perfect sense then, thank you both for your help!
 

FAQ: Proving H is a subgroup of G, given

What is the definition of a subgroup?

A subgroup is a subset of a group that itself forms a group under the same operation as the original group.

How do you prove that H is a subgroup of G?

To prove that H is a subgroup of G, you must show that H satisfies three conditions: closure, associativity, and existence of an identity element. This can be done by demonstrating that the elements of H are closed under the operation of the group G, that the operation is associative on H, and that the identity element of G is also an element of H.

What is the importance of proving that H is a subgroup of G?

Proving that H is a subgroup of G is important because it allows us to better understand the structure and properties of both H and G. It also enables us to make use of the properties and theorems that apply to subgroups in our analysis of G.

What are some common methods for proving that H is a subgroup of G?

Some common methods for proving that H is a subgroup of G include showing that H is a subset of G, demonstrating that H is closed under the operation of G, and using the subgroup criterion, which states that if H is a non-empty subset of G and for any two elements x, y in H, the product xy-1 is also in H, then H is a subgroup of G.

Are there any potential challenges or difficulties in proving that H is a subgroup of G?

Yes, there can be challenges in proving that H is a subgroup of G, particularly if H is a large or complex group. It may be difficult to demonstrate that H satisfies all three conditions for being a subgroup, and it may also be challenging to show that H is a subset of G without any counterexamples. Additionally, if the operation of G is not clearly defined or if the elements of H do not have a clear relationship to the elements of G, it may be more difficult to prove that H is a subgroup.

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