Proving (n/2)^n > n > (n/3)^n for all n > 6

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In summary, to prove the inequality (n/2)^n > n > (n/3)^n for all n > 6, we can use mathematical induction by showing that the statement holds for n = 7 and then proving that it also holds for k + 1 assuming it holds for k. Other methods such as using calculus or the binomial theorem can also be used to prove this inequality. It is important to prove this inequality for all n > 6 in order to better understand the behavior of these types of functions and make more accurate predictions and conclusions in various scientific fields.
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If $A = (300)^{600}$ and $B=600!$ and $C = (200)^{600}$, Then arrangement of $A,B,C$ in Decreasing order, is

My approach:: Here $A>C$ and Using the formula $\displaystyle \left(\frac{n}{2}\right)^n>n! >\left(\frac{n}{3}\right)^n$ for all natural no. $n>6$

and put $n=600,$ we get $(300)^{600}>600!>(200)^{600}$ So $A>B>C$

My Question is How can we prove $\displaystyle \left(\frac{n}{2}\right)^n>n! >\left(\frac{n}{3}\right)^n$ for all natural no. $n>6$

Can we prove it without induction.

Thanks
 
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jacks said:
If $A = (300)^{600}$ and $B=600!$ and $C = (200)^{600}$, Then arrangement of $A,B,C$ in Decreasing order, is

My approach:: Here $A>C$ and Using the formula $\displaystyle \left(\frac{n}{2}\right)^n>n! >\left(\frac{n}{3}\right)^n$ for all natural no. $n>6$

and put $n=600,$ we get $(300)^{600}>600!>(200)^{600}$ So $A>B>C$

My Question is How can we prove $\displaystyle \left(\frac{n}{2}\right)^n>n! >\left(\frac{n}{3}\right)^n$ for all natural no. $n>6$

Can we prove it without induction.

Thanks
This should follow from Stirling's formula together with the fact that $2<e<3$.
 
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jacks said:
If $A = (300)^{600}$ and $B=600!$ and $C = (200)^{600}$, Then arrangement of $A,B,C$ in Decreasing order, is

My approach:: Here $A>C$ and Using the formula $\displaystyle \left(\frac{n}{2}\right)^n>n! >\left(\frac{n}{3}\right)^n$ for all natural no. $n>6$

and put $n=600,$ we get $(300)^{600}>600!>(200)^{600}$ So $A>B>C$

My Question is How can we prove $\displaystyle \left(\frac{n}{2}\right)^n>n! >\left(\frac{n}{3}\right)^n$ for all natural no. $n>6$

Can we prove it without induction.

Thanks

The proof is made easier if You consider logarithms, because...

$\displaystyle \ln\ (\frac{n}{2})^{n} = n\ (\ln n - \ln 2)\ (1)$

$\displaystyle \ln\ (\frac{n}{3})^{n} = n\ (\ln n - \ln 3)\ (2)$

$\displaystyle \ln n! \sim n\ (\ln n - 1)\ (3)$

Take into account that $\displaystyle \ln 2 < 1 < \ln 3$...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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Thanks chisigma

would you like to explain me How we get $\ln(n!)\approx n\left(\ln (n)-1\right)$
 
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jacks said:
Thanks chisigma

would you like to explain me How we get $\ln(n!)\approx n\left(\ln (n)-1\right)$

It consists in the Stirling's approximation that in more precise form is...

$\displaystyle \ln n! = n\ \ln n - n + \mathcal {O} (\ln n)\ (1)$ Stirling's Approximation -- from Wolfram MathWorld

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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The lower bound $n!>\left(\frac{n}{3}\right)^n$ is easy to obtain from the Maclaurin series for $e^x$. We have $e^x=\sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{x^n}{n!}$. In particular, $e^x>\frac{x^n}{n!}$. Taking $x=n$ gives $e^n>\frac{n^n}{n!}$, i.e., $n!>\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n> \left(\frac{n}{3}\right)^n$ since $e<3$.
 
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jacks said:
Thanks chisigma

would you like to explain me How we get $\ln(n!)\approx n\left(\ln (n)-1\right)$

Alternatively... in...

http://mathhelpboards.com/discrete-mathematics-set-theory-logic-15/difference-equation-tutorial-draft-part-i-426.html#post2494

...it has been demonstrated that for x 'large enough' is... $\displaystyle \phi(x) = \frac{d}{d x} \ln x! \sim \ln x\ (1)$... so that... $\displaystyle \ln n! \sim \int_{0}^{n} \ln x\ dx = n\ \ln n - n\ (2)$ Kind regards$\chi$ $\sigma$
 

FAQ: Proving (n/2)^n > n > (n/3)^n for all n > 6

How do you prove the inequality (n/2)^n > n > (n/3)^n for all n > 6?

To prove this inequality, we can use mathematical induction. First, we will show that the statement holds for n = 7. Then, we will assume that the statement holds for some arbitrary positive integer k. Finally, we will show that the statement also holds for k + 1. This will prove the inequality for all n > 6.

What is the base case for the proof of (n/2)^n > n > (n/3)^n for all n > 6?

The base case for this proof is n = 7. When n = 7, we have (7/2)^7 > 7 > (7/3)^7, which simplifies to 7^7 > 7 > 7^7. This is clearly true, so the base case holds.

How do you show that the statement holds for k + 1 in the proof of (n/2)^n > n > (n/3)^n for all n > 6?

To show that the statement holds for k + 1, we can start with the assumption that the statement holds for k. This means that (k/2)^k > k > (k/3)^k. Then, we can multiply both sides of the inequality by (1/2)^k, which does not change the direction of the inequality. This gives us (k+1)/2 > (1/2)^k * k > (k+1)/3. Simplifying this further, we get (k+1)/2 > (k/2)^k * (1/2) * k > (k+1)/3. Since we know that (k/2)^k > k > (k/3)^k, we can substitute these values in the inequality to get (k+1)/2 > (k/2)^k * (1/2) * k > (k+1)/3 > k. This completes the proof for k + 1.

Can this inequality be proven using other methods besides mathematical induction?

Yes, there are other methods that can be used to prove this inequality. One approach is to use calculus and take the derivative of the function f(x) = (x/2)^x - x. This will show that the function is increasing for all x > 6, which means that f(n) > f(6) for all n > 6. Another approach is to use the binomial theorem to expand (n/2)^n and (n/3)^n and then compare the terms to show that (n/2)^n > (n/3)^n for all n > 6.

Why is it important to prove this inequality for all n > 6?

Proving this inequality for all n > 6 is important because it helps us understand the behavior of these types of functions for large values of n. It also allows us to make more accurate predictions and conclusions in various scientific fields that use these types of equations, such as biology, physics, and computer science. Additionally, proving this inequality can also lead to the discovery of new mathematical concepts and ideas.

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