Proving Orbit Derivation in External Gravitational Field

In summary, the conversation is discussing using a Lagrangian to show that the motion of two bodies under central forces can be reduced to an equivalent one-body problem. The question is whether this is still possible when the bodies are in an external uniform gravitational field. The speaker is unsure of where to start and wonders how the gravitational field will affect the Lagrangian. The other person in the conversation suggests that as long as the change of coordinates is inputted into the Lagrangian, the process should still work.
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bemigh
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Hey everyone,
I need to prove something explictly, problem is, i don't know where to start.
In orbits, we can show that the motion of 2 bodies interacting with each other only by central forces can be reduced to a an equivalent one-body problem. This is by using a Lagrangian, and by introducing an 'equivalent' mass.
The question is to show that this is possible even if these bodies are in an external uniform gravitational field.
I don't know where to start. I can't see how a gravitational field will affect the Lagrangian, because a graviatational field will just affect the potential energy term. This isn't really solving it explicity though...
any ideas where to start?
Cheers
 
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bemigh said:
Hey everyone,
I need to prove something explictly, problem is, i don't know where to start.
In orbits, we can show that the motion of 2 bodies interacting with each other only by central forces can be reduced to a an equivalent one-body problem. This is by using a Lagrangian, and by introducing an 'equivalent' mass.
The question is to show that this is possible even if these bodies are in an external uniform gravitational field.
I don't know where to start. I can't see how a gravitational field will affect the Lagrangian, because a graviatational field will just affect the potential energy term. This isn't really solving it explicity though...
any ideas where to start?
Cheers

If I'm following your argument correctly, you've made the correct connection. The process by which the coordinates are modified to produce an equivalent one body problem do not depend on a specific form of a potential, so the process will still go through. All you should have to do to prove the process is possible is to input the change of variables into the Lagrangian explicitly.

-Dan
 

FAQ: Proving Orbit Derivation in External Gravitational Field

What is orbit derivation?

Orbit derivation is the process of mathematically proving the path of an object as it moves in a gravitational field. It involves using laws of physics, such as Newton's laws of motion and the law of universal gravitation, to calculate and analyze the trajectory of an object in orbit.

Why is it important to prove orbit derivation in an external gravitational field?

Proving orbit derivation in an external gravitational field is important because it allows us to accurately predict and understand the movements of objects in space. This is crucial for space exploration, satellite navigation, and other applications that require knowledge of orbital mechanics.

What factors affect orbit derivation in an external gravitational field?

The factors that affect orbit derivation in an external gravitational field include the mass and distance of the object being orbited, the mass and distance of the body exerting the gravitational force, and the initial velocity and direction of the object in orbit.

How is orbit derivation in an external gravitational field calculated?

The orbit derivation in an external gravitational field is typically calculated using complex mathematical equations and computer simulations. This involves taking into account the various factors that affect the orbit, such as the gravitational force, centripetal force, and angular momentum.

What are some real-world applications of orbit derivation in an external gravitational field?

Orbit derivation in an external gravitational field has many practical applications, including space exploration, satellite communication and navigation, and the study of celestial bodies. It also helps us to understand and predict natural phenomena, such as tides and eclipses, which are influenced by the gravitational pull of celestial bodies.

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