Proving that sum of Rational #s is Rational

In summary, the conversation is about proving whether the sum and product of two rational numbers is also rational. The participants discuss using the fact that rational numbers can be represented as a ratio of two integers to prove this. They also reference a thread for further discussion.
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1. Let a and b be rational numbers. Prove or provide counterexample that

A) a+b is a rational number.
B) Is ab necessarily a rational number?




2. How can you prove that the sume of two rational number is rational? Well I am not really good at math



3. This is what I've tryed to do for part a. But I'm stuck proving the sum (product) of two integer is an integer.

Since a and b are rational numbers they can be written as a=x/y and b=w/z where x,y,w,z are all integers. Then a+b= x/y+w/z = (xz+wy)/(yz)

Now I'm stuck, and I have no clue how to do part B...
 
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rs21867 said:
1. Let a and b be rational numbers. Prove or provide counterexample that

A) a+b is a rational number.
B) Is ab necessarily a rational number?




2. How can you prove that the sume of two rational number is rational? Well I am not really good at math



3. This is what I've tryed to do for part a. But I'm stuck proving the sum (product) of two integer is an integer.

Since a and b are rational numbers they can be written as a=x/y and b=w/z where x,y,w,z are all integers. Then a+b= x/y+w/z = (xz+wy)/(yz)

Now I'm stuck, and I have no clue how to do part B...
You are exactly right for (a): you have shown that a+ b= (xz+ wy)/(yz) and so is the ratio of two integers (and the denominator yz is not 0 because neither y nor z is 0).

To do B, do exactly the same thing! If a= x/y and b= w/z, what is ab? Is it a ratio of two integers? Could the denominator be 0? If anything, B is easier than A because it is easier to multiply two fractions than to add!
 

FAQ: Proving that sum of Rational #s is Rational

What is a rational number?

A rational number is a number that can be expressed as a ratio of two integers, where the denominator is not equal to 0.

How can I prove that the sum of two rational numbers is rational?

To prove that the sum of two rational numbers is rational, you can use the definition of rational numbers and show that the sum can be expressed as a ratio of two integers. For example, if we have two rational numbers a/b and c/d, their sum can be expressed as (ad + bc)/bd, which is still a ratio of two integers.

What if one of the rational numbers is negative?

The same rule applies for negative rational numbers. As long as the denominator is not equal to 0, the sum of two rational numbers, one of which may be negative, will still be rational.

Can irrational numbers be added to rational numbers?

No, irrational numbers cannot be added to rational numbers because irrational numbers cannot be expressed as a ratio of two integers. Therefore, their sum will always be irrational.

Why is it important to prove that the sum of rational numbers is rational?

This proof is important because it helps us understand the properties of rational numbers and how they behave under arithmetic operations. It also allows us to confidently use rational numbers in calculations and applications without worrying about the result being irrational.

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