Proving the order of a group element

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem where G is a group and a is an element of G with an order of dk, and x is another element of G with a power of d equal to a. The goal is to prove that the order of x is d^2k where d and k are both greater than 1. The suggested solution involves proving that x^(d^2k) = e, the identity element of G, and then attempting to show that the order of x is a multiple of dk. It is suggested to divide n, the order of x, by dk and then use the given information about a to reach a contradiction.
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Homework Statement



The problem states that [itex]G[/itex] is a group, [itex]a \in G[/itex] s.t. [itex]o\left(a\right)=dk[/itex], and [itex]x \in G[/itex] s.t. [itex]x^{d}=a[/itex]. Prove that [itex]o\left(x\right)=d^{2}k[/itex] where [itex]d,k > 1[/itex].

Note: [itex]o\left(x\right)[/itex] denotes the order of element [itex]x[/itex] in [itex]G[/itex].

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The Attempt at a Solution



So, it's rather easy to show that [itex]x^{d^{2}k} = e[/itex] (where [itex]e[/itex] is the identity element of [itex]G[/itex]), but I'm having trouble proving that it is the order of [itex]x[/itex].

My thoughts were to try to assume [itex]x^{n}=e[/itex], then divide [itex]n[/itex] by [itex]d[/itex] to get [itex]n=qd+r \Rightarrow x^{qd+r}=x^{qd}x^{r} = {x^{d}}^{q}x^{r} = a^{q}x^{r} = e[/itex]. If I could somehow prove [itex]r=0[/itex], I think I could finish the proof, however, I cannot see how to proceed. If someone could point me in the right direction, it would be much appreciated.
 
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instead of dividing n by d, try dividing it by dk...(the idea is to prove the order of x is a multiple of dk).

then show that if xdkq = e, with 0 < q < d, you get a contradiction (now use what you know about a).
 

FAQ: Proving the order of a group element

What is the definition of a group element?

A group element is an element that belongs to a mathematical group, which is a set of objects with a defined operation that satisfies certain properties such as closure, associativity, identity, and inverse.

How do you prove the order of a group element?

The order of a group element can be proven by finding the smallest positive integer n such that the element raised to the power of n is equal to the identity element of the group. This integer n is known as the order of the element.

Can the order of a group element be infinite?

Yes, the order of a group element can be infinite. This means that there is no positive integer n that satisfies the condition mentioned above, and the element can be raised to any power without reaching the identity element.

What is the significance of proving the order of a group element?

Proving the order of a group element is important because it helps in understanding the structure and properties of the group. It also allows for the classification and comparison of different groups.

Are there any specific methods for proving the order of a group element?

Yes, there are specific methods such as the Lagrange's theorem, Euler's theorem, and the Chinese remainder theorem that can be used to prove the order of a group element. These methods involve using various mathematical concepts and techniques to determine the order of an element.

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