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ie. plants that get you high.
Why is it they evolved? What is the purpose of these plants that induce such states? Or is it just something "that happened"?
I read that Terance McKenna (strong supporter of psychedelic drug use, philosopher, etc.) believed that mushrooms in specific is what caused cavemen humans to evolve into what we have become. Through the hallucinogen they gained a better understanding of their capabilities and so evolved. I don't know, somehting like that anyway. Your thoughts.
More interestingly, DMT, a very powerful hallucinogenic drug, produces outrageous states in an individual. You are sent to another world, a new dimension, and you see and feel things that reality cannot offer you.
"I then realized that they were being driven from me. I was undergoing a type of exorcism, and I was immediately aware of a ram on a hill of purple grasses, beyond a rushing stream of beautiful microscopic geometries. The ram had eyes all over its head, and beside was a horse that was ten feet tall at the shoulder, and breathing heavily. The horse watched, and then ran towards a greying horizon, while overhead a silver sun was spinning sounlessly.
The ram had driven the lies from me, and I approached the stream. There were machines in the stream, and I was told not to touch the water, but to find the crossing, and I realized that the cross of Christ was not a cross, but a crossing, from judgement into salvation, and that the stories of religion were allegories, froming themselves again and again until they could be superimposed over the framework of machinery that was my own personal syntax.
I realized the glory, the importance, of TRUTH.
The truth was that my fear ruled my existence.
Could salvation be truth?
I was guided to my soft, pink brain by a dragonfly, which was piloted by a man with no eyes.
It is impossible to adequately relate to those reading this that all of the above was occurring simultaneously, and yet, in right angles, and even moreover, in a corner of what I was to discover was a pile of powder on a floor, into which my eyeballs fell, and the dust did adhere."
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=16314
I think we can all agree that our world is not made up of the above mentioned incidences. What's REALLY weird is that we produce DMT in our pineal gland...
"N,N-Dimethyltryptamine and 5-Methoxy-Dimethyltryptamine are naturally occurring psychedelics found in a variety of plants around the world, several of which are native to the Amazon region. These alkaloids, which are usually found together in the plants, are also found in the human brain as neurotransmitters, as well as m our blood, urine, and spinal fluid [1]. DMT is produced in the human pineal gland which is correlated to the "3rd eye" or Ajna Chakra in the Indian spiritual system. Meditative states attained by yogis who concentrate on the 3rd eye may be the result of increased DMT levels."
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/essential_psychedelic_guide/dmt.shtml
One author who wrote a book called "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" claimed that DMT links us to our spirit world. A world that is untouched by reality and we are unable to percieve it without the aid of this chemical.
I was just wondering what use a chemical like this has in the human body. Do any of you, offhand, know whether or not DMT has any particular use aside from making one "dive into the spirit world"? Because I know that increased levels of serotonin or dopamine give many of the effects of many other drugs, in increased concentration I'm guessing, and these neurotransmitters have other purposes aside from this.
Assuming that this molecule does link us to the spirit world, is it exclusive to humans? Do all animals have a pineal gland to produce DMT? If not, then I guess we are the only ones who are given the gift of percieving the other dimensions. But this does not mean that everything is not linked to this, anyways, food for thought...
So what's the deal with all of these chemicals that induce spiritual states? Is there something outside our reality that we can only touch upon via hallucinogenic drugs? Does this reality exist? If not, then what is the purpose of these chemicals, what role do they have in our world?
Thanks, an interesting topic I think...
Anyways, for those who are interested in learning more about DMT, www.erowid.org...plant's and drugs, DMT, and there you go. I think it is the most interesting drug there is.
Why is it they evolved? What is the purpose of these plants that induce such states? Or is it just something "that happened"?
I read that Terance McKenna (strong supporter of psychedelic drug use, philosopher, etc.) believed that mushrooms in specific is what caused cavemen humans to evolve into what we have become. Through the hallucinogen they gained a better understanding of their capabilities and so evolved. I don't know, somehting like that anyway. Your thoughts.
More interestingly, DMT, a very powerful hallucinogenic drug, produces outrageous states in an individual. You are sent to another world, a new dimension, and you see and feel things that reality cannot offer you.
"I then realized that they were being driven from me. I was undergoing a type of exorcism, and I was immediately aware of a ram on a hill of purple grasses, beyond a rushing stream of beautiful microscopic geometries. The ram had eyes all over its head, and beside was a horse that was ten feet tall at the shoulder, and breathing heavily. The horse watched, and then ran towards a greying horizon, while overhead a silver sun was spinning sounlessly.
The ram had driven the lies from me, and I approached the stream. There were machines in the stream, and I was told not to touch the water, but to find the crossing, and I realized that the cross of Christ was not a cross, but a crossing, from judgement into salvation, and that the stories of religion were allegories, froming themselves again and again until they could be superimposed over the framework of machinery that was my own personal syntax.
I realized the glory, the importance, of TRUTH.
The truth was that my fear ruled my existence.
Could salvation be truth?
I was guided to my soft, pink brain by a dragonfly, which was piloted by a man with no eyes.
It is impossible to adequately relate to those reading this that all of the above was occurring simultaneously, and yet, in right angles, and even moreover, in a corner of what I was to discover was a pile of powder on a floor, into which my eyeballs fell, and the dust did adhere."
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=16314
I think we can all agree that our world is not made up of the above mentioned incidences. What's REALLY weird is that we produce DMT in our pineal gland...
"N,N-Dimethyltryptamine and 5-Methoxy-Dimethyltryptamine are naturally occurring psychedelics found in a variety of plants around the world, several of which are native to the Amazon region. These alkaloids, which are usually found together in the plants, are also found in the human brain as neurotransmitters, as well as m our blood, urine, and spinal fluid [1]. DMT is produced in the human pineal gland which is correlated to the "3rd eye" or Ajna Chakra in the Indian spiritual system. Meditative states attained by yogis who concentrate on the 3rd eye may be the result of increased DMT levels."
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/essential_psychedelic_guide/dmt.shtml
One author who wrote a book called "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" claimed that DMT links us to our spirit world. A world that is untouched by reality and we are unable to percieve it without the aid of this chemical.
I was just wondering what use a chemical like this has in the human body. Do any of you, offhand, know whether or not DMT has any particular use aside from making one "dive into the spirit world"? Because I know that increased levels of serotonin or dopamine give many of the effects of many other drugs, in increased concentration I'm guessing, and these neurotransmitters have other purposes aside from this.
Assuming that this molecule does link us to the spirit world, is it exclusive to humans? Do all animals have a pineal gland to produce DMT? If not, then I guess we are the only ones who are given the gift of percieving the other dimensions. But this does not mean that everything is not linked to this, anyways, food for thought...
So what's the deal with all of these chemicals that induce spiritual states? Is there something outside our reality that we can only touch upon via hallucinogenic drugs? Does this reality exist? If not, then what is the purpose of these chemicals, what role do they have in our world?
Thanks, an interesting topic I think...
Anyways, for those who are interested in learning more about DMT, www.erowid.org...plant's and drugs, DMT, and there you go. I think it is the most interesting drug there is.