Puzzling Equation: x^y=y^x - Are There Solutions?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a proof for the equation x^y=y^x and concludes that the only positive integers that satisfy this equation are 2 and 4. The proof involves using the prime factorization of x and y and considering the cases where y is greater or equal to x. Additionally, it is mentioned that the equation can be rewritten in terms of natural logarithms to help with the proof.
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Is there a proof that shows that there are no positive integers, other than 2 and 4, that satisfy the equation x^y=y^x?

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Just take x=y and you have infinitely many solutions:smile:

So the best you can hope for is to find a proof for your assertion under the additional constraint that x and y be distinct.
 
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Ynaught? said:
Is there a proof that shows that there are no positive integers, other than 2 and 4, that satisfy the equation x^y=y^x?

Thanks
Try using the prime factorization of x and y for a start
 
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Thanks. By converting the equation to ln(x)/x = ln(y)/y I think I have it figured out.
 
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Ynaught? said:
Is there a proof that shows that there are no positive integers, other than 2 and 4, that satisfy the equation x^y=y^x?

Thanks


I think on this proof:

consider y > x

[tex]x^y = y^x ==> y = kx ==> x^y = (kx)^x ==> x^{y-x} = k^x ==> x^{x(k-1)} = k^x ==> x^{k-1} = k[/tex]

as [tex]x^{k-1} = k[/tex] is true for x > k if and only if k = 1, and k = 1 ==> x=y, this is a contradiction with our initial consideration that y > x, then k >= x

by [tex]x^{k-1} = k[/tex] it is easy to see that k and x have exactly the same prime numbers as factors.

proof: k >= x, supose that there is one factor in k not in x, so let's write [tex] k = w*x^n ==> x^{k-1 -n} = w[/tex] that is true if and only if w = 1 and n = k - 1

as x and k have exactly the same factors [tex]x^{k-1} = k[/tex] is true if and only if x=k ==> [tex]x^{x-1} = x ==> x = 2[/tex]

x = k = 2, as y = kx, then y = 4 and the proof is finish
 
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FAQ: Puzzling Equation: x^y=y^x - Are There Solutions?

Question 1: What is the Puzzling Equation x^y=y^x and are there solutions?

The puzzling equation x^y=y^x is a mathematical equation where the variables x and y are raised to the power of each other. It is called "puzzling" because it does not have an obvious solution. However, there are solutions to this equation.

Question 2: How many solutions does the Puzzling Equation x^y=y^x have?

The number of solutions for the puzzling equation x^y=y^x depends on the values of x and y. If x and y are equal, then there is only one solution - when both x and y are equal to 1. If x and y are different, then there are an infinite number of solutions.

Question 3: What are some examples of solutions to the Puzzling Equation x^y=y^x?

Some examples of solutions to the puzzling equation x^y=y^x are (2,4), (4,2), (3,9), (9,3), and (5,25). These solutions can be verified by substituting the values of x and y into the equation.

Question 4: How can the Puzzling Equation x^y=y^x be solved?

The puzzling equation x^y=y^x can be solved by taking the logarithm of both sides. This will result in the equation ln(x)/x=ln(y)/y. By plotting the graphs of these two equations, the points of intersection will give the solutions to the equation.

Question 5: What is the significance of the Puzzling Equation x^y=y^x in mathematics?

The puzzling equation x^y=y^x has significance in mathematics because it highlights the relationship between exponential and logarithmic functions. It also demonstrates the importance of considering all possible solutions, even in seemingly simple equations.

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