Quantum Well Centred at the Origin Doubled in Size at time t=0. Symmetry seems to render the question incorrect

In summary, the concept of a quantum well, which is centered at the origin, experiences a doubling in size at time t=0. However, the presence of symmetry raises questions regarding the accuracy of this scenario, suggesting that the implications of such a change may not align with expected physical principles.
  • #1
kodel420
2
0
Homework Statement
I am currently studying an Introductory Quantum Mechanics course, and one past example question talks about the following. An infinite potential well given by $$V(x) = \begin{cases} 0 \; -\frac{L}{2} \le x \le \frac{L}{2} \\ \infty \; \text{otherwise} \end{cases}$$

At time ## t=0 ##, the particle is in the ground state of the well and the well is doubled in width and now runs from ## -L ## to ## L ##. What is the probability that the particle is found in the new n=2 state [answer : ## \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} ##].
Relevant Equations
$$V_i(x) = \begin{cases} 0 \; -\frac{L}{2} \le x \le \frac{L}{2} \\ \infty \; \text{otherwise} \end{cases}$$
$$V_f(x) = \begin{cases} 0 \; -L \le x \le L \\ \infty \; \text{otherwise} \end{cases}$$
Firstly I have found the eigenstates for both the original well and the new well as the following

$$\psi_{n,\frac{L}{2}} = \begin{cases} \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}} \cos{\frac{n \pi x}{L}} \; \; \; \; \; n \text{ odd} \\ \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}} \sin{\frac{n \pi x}{L}} \; \; \; \; \; n \text{ even} \end{cases}$$

$$\psi_{n,L} = \begin{cases} \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}} \cos{\frac{n \pi x}{2L}} \; \; \; \; \; n \text{ odd} \\ \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}} \sin{\frac{n \pi x}{2L}} \; \; \; \; \; n \text{ even} \end{cases}$$

Then using the principle of superposition the original ground state can be written as a superposition of the new eigenstates

$$\psi_{1,\frac{L}{2}} = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} {c_n}\psi_{n,L} \; \; \; \; \; c_n = \int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \psi_{1,\frac{L}{2}} \; \psi_{n,L} \;dx$$

and by the Born Rule the probability is just ## |c_n|^2 ## so we are looking to find ## c_2 ##. My problem is that the integral $$\int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \psi_{1,\frac{L}{2}} \; \psi_{2,L} = 0$$ obviously not giving the desired result. So my question is, am I doing something wrong, or does the symmetry of the well cause an issue, because the same issue does not arise for a well from ## 0 ## to ## L ## being extended to ## 0 ## to ## 2L ##
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
kodel420 said:
My problem is that the integral $$\int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \psi_{1,\frac{L}{2}} \; \psi_{2,L} = 0$$ obviously not giving the desired result.
That's not obvious to me. Using this integral, I found the first eight non-zero coefficients and plotted the summation to get the graph shown below (##L=1##). It does what it's supposed to do, no?

Unnormalized.png
 
  • #3
kuruman said:
That's not obvious to me. Using this integral, I found the first eight non-zero coefficients and plotted the summation to get the graph shown below (##L=1##). It does what it's supposed to do, no?

View attachment 344563
I believe this is correct, however my issue is that the question specifically asks for the probability of the second state, which would be the second coefficient squared. Perhaps I have it wrong, but if you omit the even coefficients in that graph I think the same graph should be produced. Thank you for graphing them though, I didn't think to do that.

I also should have probably written out the integral in full for the second coefficient, that's my bad :

$$c_n = \int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \psi_{1,\frac{L}{2}} \; \psi_{2,L} = \int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}} \cos{\frac{\pi x}{L}} \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}} \sin{\frac{2 \pi x}{2L}} = 0$$
 
  • #4
kodel420 said:
I also should have probably written out the integral in full for the second coefficient, that's my bad :

$$c_n = \int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \psi_{1,\frac{L}{2}} \; \psi_{2,L} = \int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}} \cos{\frac{\pi x}{L}} \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}} \sin{\frac{2 \pi x}{2L}} = 0$$
I agree with this result.

I noticed the following. Suppose the well initially extends from x = 0 to x = L and the particle is in the ground state of this well. The right wall is suddenly moved to x = 2L. Then I find that the probability amplitude for finding the particle in the first excited state of the new well is ##1/\sqrt 2##.

[Edited to make the initial width of the well equal to L and the final width equal to 2L.]
 
Last edited:
  • #5
kodel420 said:
I believe this is correct, however my issue is that the question specifically asks for the probability of the second state, which would be the second coefficient squared. Perhaps I have it wrong, but if you omit the even coefficients in that graph I think the same graph should be produced. Thank you for graphing them though, I didn't think to do that.

I also should have probably written out the integral in full for the second coefficient, that's my bad :

$$c_n = \int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \psi_{1,\frac{L}{2}} \; \psi_{2,L} = \int_{-L/2}^{L/2} \sqrt{\frac{2}{L}} \cos{\frac{\pi x}{L}} \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}} \sin{\frac{2 \pi x}{2L}} = 0$$
It cannot be otherwise by symmetry. One is integrating an odd function, ## \cos{\frac{\pi x}{L}} \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}} \sin{\frac{2 \pi x}{2L}}## over symmetric limits which means that the integral vanishes. All the ##c_n## terms with ##n=~##even must vanish for the same reason. That is as it ought to be because you are expanding an even function and you cannot have odd terms in the expansion.

The energy level diagram consists of all the odd ##n## coefficients. The first excited state has ##n=3##, the second excited state ##n=5## and so on.
 

FAQ: Quantum Well Centred at the Origin Doubled in Size at time t=0. Symmetry seems to render the question incorrect

What is a quantum well and how does it function?

A quantum well is a potential energy well that confines particles, such as electrons, in a dimensionally restricted space. It is formed by sandwiching a thin layer of a semiconductor material with a lower bandgap energy between two layers of a material with a higher bandgap energy. This confinement leads to quantized energy levels, allowing for unique electronic and optical properties that are utilized in devices like lasers and photodetectors.

What does it mean for a quantum well to be centered at the origin?

When a quantum well is described as being centered at the origin, it means that the potential well is symmetrically placed around the origin of the coordinate system. This symmetry can lead to specific properties in the wave functions and energy levels of the confined particles, as the potential is identical on both sides of the origin.

How does doubling the size of a quantum well affect its properties?

Doubling the size of a quantum well typically results in changes to the energy levels and the spatial distribution of the wave functions of the confined particles. Larger wells generally have lower energy levels and can support more quantized states, which affects the electronic and optical behavior of the material. The confinement effects become less pronounced as the well size increases.

What role does symmetry play in the analysis of quantum wells?

Symmetry is crucial in quantum mechanics as it simplifies the analysis of systems. In quantum wells, symmetry can lead to degeneracies in the energy levels and specific selection rules for transitions. When a quantum well is symmetric, certain states may be forbidden or allowed based on symmetry considerations, impacting the physical properties and behaviors of the system.

Why might the question about symmetry and doubling the quantum well size be considered incorrect?

The question may be considered incorrect if it assumes that symmetry alone determines the behavior of the quantum well without accounting for other factors, such as the potential energy profile and the boundary conditions. Additionally, if the quantum well is doubled in size while maintaining the same potential profile, the symmetry might not lead to straightforward conclusions about the system's energy levels or wave functions, as the effects of size and confinement must be carefully analyzed together.

Back
Top