Query regarding implicit differentiation

In summary, the two answers differ because the first one includes the entire dx term and the second one excludes it.
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t_n_p
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Homework Statement



Use implicit diff to find partial x and partial y if

x² + y² + z² = 3xyz


The Attempt at a Solution



firstly with partial x...

2x + 2z(∂z/∂x) = 3yz + 3xy(∂z/dx)
2x - 3yz = 3xy(∂z/dx) - 2z(∂z/∂x)
2x - 3yz = (3xy - 2z)(∂z/dx)
(2x - 3yz)/(3xy - 2z) = (∂z/dx)

yet in the solutions, they have moved all the (∂z/dx) terms to the left hand side thus giving

(∂z/dx) = (3yz - 2x)/(2z - 3xy)

Quite obviously this is not the same as my answer. My question is why should the two answers differ? MUST you take all (∂z/dx) terms to the left hand side as some sort of convention?
 
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t_n_p said:
(2x - 3yz)/(3xy - 2z) = (∂z/dx)

yet in the solutions, they have moved all the (∂z/dx) terms to the left hand side thus giving

(∂z/dx) = (3yz - 2x)/(2z - 3xy)

Quite obviously this is not the same as my answer.

Hi t_n_p! :smile:

They are the same!

Yours just has the top and bottom both multiplied by -1. :smile:
MUST you take all (∂z/dx) terms to the left hand side as some sort of convention?

erm … yes!

(unless you're writing in Hebrew or Arabic :rolleyes:)

… you won't lose any marks for not doing it … but if you're asked an ordinary English question "what is an apple?" or "what is ∂z/∂x?", you start the answer with "an apple is …" or "∂z/∂x is …"

So ∂z/∂x goes on the left! :smile:

A math proof should sound like good English when you read it out! :wink:
 
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hmmm, the thought never occurred to me...

also regarding the second point, I meant during the taking the dy/dx and non dy/dx terms to the left or rhs. obviously I would write the answer as dy/dx = ...

Just having one of those mindblocks...
Cheers
 

FAQ: Query regarding implicit differentiation

What is implicit differentiation?

Implicit differentiation is a method used in calculus to find the derivative of an equation that is not explicitly written in terms of the independent variable. It is commonly used when the dependent variable cannot be easily isolated on one side of the equation.

When should implicit differentiation be used?

Implicit differentiation should be used when the equation cannot be easily solved for the dependent variable. This often occurs when the equation is non-linear or contains multiple variables.

How is implicit differentiation different from explicit differentiation?

Explicit differentiation involves finding the derivative of an equation that is written explicitly in terms of the independent variable, while implicit differentiation involves finding the derivative of an equation that is not explicitly written in terms of the independent variable.

What are the steps for performing implicit differentiation?

The steps for performing implicit differentiation include:

  1. Differentiating both sides of the equation with respect to the independent variable
  2. Using the chain rule when necessary
  3. Simplifying the resulting equation
  4. Solving for the derivative of the dependent variable

Can implicit differentiation be used to find higher order derivatives?

Yes, implicit differentiation can be extended to find higher order derivatives by differentiating the equation multiple times with respect to the independent variable. This is commonly used in applications where the rate of change of a variable is changing over time.

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