Question about the delta-epsilon definition of a limit

In summary, the definition of a finite limit states that for every ε, there exists a δ such that if a-δ < x < a+δ, then |f(x)-L|<ε. This is not the same as saying that for every δ, there exists an ε such that a-δ < x < a+δ and |f(x)-L|<ε. The key difference is the placement of the universal quantifier, which highlights the importance of being able to control the size of the interval around L, rather than just containing the function within a certain range.
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The definition says:

A finite limit exists if for every ε, there exists a δ such that if

a - δ < x < a + δ

then

| f( x ) - L | < ε

It seems that an equivalent statement would be:

A finite limit exists if for every δ that defines a domain region

a - δ < x < a + δ

that the function value is limited to a range region

| f( x ) - L | < ε

Thus it could also be said that for any domain region width δ (i.e., in the "neighborhood"), then if the function value is limited to some range region L ± ε, then the finite limit exists

Would this last statement be proper?

there exists an ε such that
 
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No, these are not the same thing. The definition of a limit is that "For every ε, there exists a δ such that a-δ < x < a+δ ⇒ |f(x)-L|<ε" Your statements both amount to saying "For every δ, there exists an ε such that a-δ < x < a+δ ⇒ |f(x)-L|<ε". Notice the change in word order? That matters. The point of the limit definition is not that the function will be contained in some small interval around L, but rather that you can force it to be contained in any interval around L by taking δ small enough. That's why the universal quantifier is in front of the epsilon, rather than the delta.
 

Related to Question about the delta-epsilon definition of a limit

1. What is the delta-epsilon definition of a limit?

The delta-epsilon definition of a limit is a mathematical approach used to rigorously define the concept of a limit in calculus. It states that for a given function, f(x), as x approaches a specific value, c, the limit of f(x) as x approaches c is equal to L if and only if for any positive value of ε, there exists a positive value of δ such that if the distance between x and c is less than δ, then the distance between f(x) and L is less than ε.

2. Why is the delta-epsilon definition of a limit important?

The delta-epsilon definition of a limit is important because it provides a precise and formal definition of the concept of a limit. This definition allows for the development of rigorous mathematical proofs and helps to avoid common misconceptions and errors in understanding limits. It also serves as the foundation for many important concepts in calculus, such as continuity and differentiability.

3. How is the delta-epsilon definition of a limit used in calculus?

The delta-epsilon definition of a limit is used in calculus to prove the existence of limits and to evaluate limits of functions that are not continuous at a certain point. It is also used to define important concepts like continuity, differentiability, and the derivative.

4. What are some common difficulties in understanding the delta-epsilon definition of a limit?

Some common difficulties in understanding the delta-epsilon definition of a limit include the abstract nature of the definition, the use of mathematical symbols and notation, and the concept of infinitesimals. It may also be challenging for students to apply this definition in practice and to see its connection to real-world applications.

5. Can the delta-epsilon definition of a limit be applied to all functions?

Yes, the delta-epsilon definition of a limit can be applied to all functions, including piecewise and discontinuous functions. However, it may not always be the most efficient or practical approach for evaluating limits. In some cases, alternative methods such as L'Hôpital's rule or algebraic manipulation may be more appropriate.

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