Question about the solution to this elastic collision

In summary, the equations 1/2m1v1i^2+1/2m2v2i^2=1/2m1v1f^2+1/2m2v2f^2 and m1v1i+mvv2i=m1v1f+m2v2f are not interchangeable as they give different answers. Collisions conserve momentum but not necessarily energy, so one should default to momentum conservation unless told that the collision is perfectly elastic. Using both equations may involve solving for two unknowns.
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Homework Statement
High-speed stroboscopic photographs show that the
head of a golf club of mass 200 g is traveling at 55.0 m/s
just before it strikes a 46.0-g golf ball at rest on a tee. After the collision, the club head travels (in the same direction) at 40.0 m/s. Find the speed of the golf ball just
after impact
Relevant Equations
1/2m1v1i^2+1/2m2v2i^2=1/2m1v1f^2+1/2m2v2f^2
m1v1i+mvv2i=m1v1f+m2v2f
I found that 1/2m1v1i^2+1/2m2v2i^2=1/2m1v1f^2+1/2m2v2f^2
=>0.5*200*55^2+0.5*46*0^2=0.5*40^2*200+0.5*46*0*vf^2=>vf=78.713 m/s.

The true answer is 65.2 m/s and is solved using m1v1i+mvv2i=m1v1f+m2v2f. Are these equations not interchangeable? Why can I not use the equation I used?
 
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The equations are not interchangeable. If they were, they would give the same answer. All collisions conserve momentum but not necessarily energy.
 
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kuruman said:
The equations are not interchangeable. If they were, they would give the same answer. All collisions conserve momentum but not necessarily energy.
I see. So the kinetic energy one works if energy is conserved? And should I always default to momentum?
 
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as2528 said:
I see. So the kinetic energy one works if energy is conserved? And should I always default to momentum?
Yes, in a collision you default to momentum conservation. If you are told that the collision is perfectly elastic, then you can use energy conservation as well. Using both, usually involves questions where there are two unknowns.
 
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kuruman said:
Yes, in a collision you default to momentum conservation. If you are told that the collision is perfectly elastic, then you can use energy conservation as well. Using both, usually involves questions where there are two unknowns.
Thank you! This really cleared it up for me.
 
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FAQ: Question about the solution to this elastic collision

What is an elastic collision?

An elastic collision is a type of collision where both momentum and kinetic energy are conserved. This means that the total kinetic energy of the two colliding bodies before and after the collision remains the same, and there is no loss of energy to other forms such as heat or sound.

How do you calculate the final velocities in a one-dimensional elastic collision?

In a one-dimensional elastic collision between two objects, the final velocities can be calculated using the following formulas:
For object 1: \(v_{1f} = \frac{(m_1 - m_2)v_{1i} + 2m_2v_{2i}}{m_1 + m_2}\)
For object 2: \(v_{2f} = \frac{(m_2 - m_1)v_{2i} + 2m_1v_{1i}}{m_1 + m_2}\)
where \(v_{1i}\) and \(v_{2i}\) are the initial velocities of objects 1 and 2, \(v_{1f}\) and \(v_{2f}\) are the final velocities, and \(m_1\) and \(m_2\) are the masses of the objects.

What is the difference between elastic and inelastic collisions?

In an elastic collision, both momentum and kinetic energy are conserved. In contrast, in an inelastic collision, momentum is conserved, but kinetic energy is not. Inelastic collisions typically result in some loss of kinetic energy to other forms of energy such as heat, sound, or deformation of the colliding bodies.

Can an elastic collision occur in both one and two dimensions?

Yes, elastic collisions can occur in both one and two dimensions. In one-dimensional elastic collisions, the motion is along a single straight line. In two-dimensional elastic collisions, the motion occurs in a plane, and both the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy must be considered in both the x and y directions.

How does the mass of the colliding objects affect the outcome of an elastic collision?

The masses of the colliding objects significantly affect the outcome of an elastic collision. The final velocities of the objects depend on their initial velocities and masses. Generally, if a lighter object collides with a heavier stationary object, the lighter object will rebound with a velocity close to its initial velocity in the opposite direction, while the heavier object will gain a small velocity. Conversely, if a heavier object collides with a lighter stationary object, the lighter object will move away with a higher velocity.

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