Question Regarding Harmonic Oscillator Eigenkets

In summary: The infinite dimensionality is accounted for in the summation over n in the expectation value formula <X> = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} x_n |\langle n | \psi \rangle|^2.In summary, the conversation discusses calculating <X>, <P>, <X^2>, etc. for a harmonic oscillator with eigenkstates |n>. It is not necessary to define a wavefunction in the |n> basis, as the operators X and P can be expressed as linear combinations of the raising and lowering ladder operators. The expectation values can be calculated using these ladder operators and the infinite dimensionality is accounted for in the summation over n.
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Thunder_Jet
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Hi everyone!

Given that a harmonic oscillator has eigenkstates |n> where n = 1,2,3,..., how can we calculate <X>, <P>, <X^2>, etc. Is there a need to define a wavefunction in the |n> basis?

Thanks!
 
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Essentially no, because |n>'s are eigenkets of the number operator/Hamiltonian and X and P, though unbounded & with purely continuous spectrum, can be expressed as linear combinations of the raising & lowering ladder operators whose action on the eigenket's space becomes known once you establish that |n>'s are eigenkets of H and N.
 
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So that means just express the |n> kets as linear combinations of the ladder operators, and then use them as ψ in the formula <X> = <ψ|X|ψ>? But how would you deal with the infinite dimensionality? Will the answer be finite in that case?

Thank you by the way for the idea!
 
  • #4
Consider that
[tex]
\hat{a}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(\hat{x}+i\hat{p})
[/tex]
and
[tex]
\hat{a}^{\dagger}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(\hat{x}-i\hat{p})
[/tex]
You can use these to write [itex]\hat{x}[/itex] and [itex]\hat{p}[/itex] in terms of [itex]\hat{a}[/itex] and [itex]\hat{a}^{\dagger}[/itex]. Then you know
[tex]
\hat{a}|n\rangle = \sqrt{n}|n-1\rangle
[/tex]
and
[tex]
\hat{a}^{\dagger}|n\rangle=\sqrt{n+1}|n+1\rangle
[/tex]
You have the tools to take the expectation value.
 
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Thunder_Jet said:
So that means just express the |n> kets as linear combinations of the ladder operators, and then use them as ψ in the formula <X> = <ψ|X|ψ>? But how would you deal with the infinite dimensionality? Will the answer be finite in that case?

Thank you by the way for the idea!

You don't express the kets as ladder operators acting on the vacuum, you express x and p as ladder operators.
 

FAQ: Question Regarding Harmonic Oscillator Eigenkets

What is a harmonic oscillator eigenket?

A harmonic oscillator eigenket is a quantum state vector that represents the quantum mechanical state of a harmonic oscillator system. It is a stationary state of the system, meaning that the probability of finding the oscillator in this state does not change with time.

What is the significance of harmonic oscillator eigenkets?

Harmonic oscillator eigenkets are important in quantum mechanics because they provide a complete set of basis states for describing the quantum state of a harmonic oscillator. They also play a crucial role in calculating the energy levels of a harmonic oscillator system.

How are harmonic oscillator eigenkets related to energy levels?

The energy of a harmonic oscillator system can only take on certain discrete values, known as energy levels. These energy levels are directly related to the eigenvalues of the Hamiltonian operator, which is a mathematical representation of the harmonic oscillator system. The eigenkets of the Hamiltonian operator correspond to the different energy levels of the system.

Can harmonic oscillator eigenkets be observed experimentally?

No, harmonic oscillator eigenkets cannot be observed directly through experiments. They are abstract mathematical constructs used to describe the quantum state of a harmonic oscillator system. However, their effects can be observed through measurements of the energy levels and other properties of the system.

How do I calculate the probability of finding a harmonic oscillator in a particular eigenket?

The probability of finding a harmonic oscillator in a particular eigenket is given by the square of the coefficient for that eigenket in the wave function of the system. This can be calculated using the Schrödinger equation and the normalization condition for the wave function.

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