Questions about a spring-mass system hanging vertically

In summary, the discussion focuses on the dynamics of a vertical spring-mass system, exploring key concepts such as equilibrium, oscillation, and the forces acting on the mass. It examines how the spring's constant affects the system's behavior, including how the mass stretches the spring and the resulting potential energy. The analysis also includes the effects of gravitational force and the conditions for simple harmonic motion, providing insights into the system's stability and response to external perturbations.
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Homework Statement
I would like to see if I did these problems correctly

1) A spring with coefficient k suspends an object of mass m. The object is displaced a distance x from its equilibrium position. The spring hangs vertically from the ceiling. What is the acceleration of the object when it returns to equilibrium? What is the velocity of the mass at its largest displacements?

2) A spring of coefficient 5N/m is hung vertically from the ceiling 10m high. A mass of 5kg is suspended from the spring and displaced 1m upwards. How fast is the mass moving when it is .7m below the equilibrium position?
Relevant Equations
1/2kx^2=1/2mv^2
1) a=0 and v=0

2) 0.7 m/s
 
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emmalyn1997 said:
Homework Statement: I would like to see if I did these problems correctly

1) A spring with coefficient k suspends an object of mass m. The object is displaced a distance x from its equilibrium position. The spring hangs vertically from the ceiling. What is the acceleration of the object when it returns to equilibrium? What is the velocity of the mass at its largest displacements?

2) A spring of coefficient 5N/m is hung vertically from the ceiling 10m high. A mass of 5kg is suspended from the spring and displaced 1m upwards. How fast is the mass moving when it is .7m below the equilibrium position?
Relevant Equations: 1/2kx^2=1/2mv^2

1) a=0 and v=0

2) 0.7 m/s
Hello @emmalyn1997 ,
:welcome: ##\qquad## !​
I can't tell if you did these problems correctly: you don't show what you did, but only post some numbers :smile:
And: what about mgh in your relevant equation ?

I also have a problem with exercise 2: is there a hole in the floor ?

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/homework-help-guidelines-for-students-and-helpers.686781/

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BvU said:
Hello @emmalyn1997 ,
:welcome: ##\qquad## !​
I can't tell if you did these problems correctly: you don't show what you did, but only post some numbers :smile:
And: what about mgh in your relevant equation ?

I also have a problem with exercise 2: is there a hole in the floor ?

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/homework-help-guidelines-for-students-and-helpers.686781/

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For problem 1, I found the acceleration was equal to zero because at equilibrium the net force would be equal to zero, and plugging it into F=ma to be 0=ma, causes the acceleration to be zero. I found velocity to be equal to zero because the energy is all potential energy, therefore no kinetic energy meaning velocity would be zero.
As for problem 2, I am not exactly sure about your question, that was just the problem as worded on the study guide. I originally used the equation 1/2kx^2=mgh, and then I used the conservation of mechanical energy to relate potential energy to kinetic energy of the mass, ending up with the equation 1/2kx^2=1/2mv^2. And then solving for velocity v=(sqrt k/m) * x. Getting the solution 0.7m/s. I am not quite sure what other equation to use for this problem so if you have any other ideas that would be very helpful.
 
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emmalyn1997 said:
For problem 1, I found the acceleration was equal to zero because at equilibrium the net force would be equal to zero, and plugging it into F=ma to be 0=ma, causes the acceleration to be zero. I found velocity to be equal to zero because the energy is all potential energy, therefore no kinetic energy meaning velocity would be zero.
That's correct.
emmalyn1997 said:
As for problem 2, I am not exactly sure about your question, that was just the problem as worded on the study guide. I originally used the equation 1/2kx^2=mgh, and then I used the conservation of mechanical energy to relate potential energy to kinetic energy of the mass, ending up with the equation 1/2kx^2=1/2mv^2. And then solving for velocity v=(sqrt k/m) * x. Getting the solution 0.7m/s. I am not quite sure what other equation to use for this problem so if you have any other ideas that would be very helpful.
What is ##x## here?
 
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BvU said:
is there a hole in the floor ?
Moreover, we are not told the relaxed length of the spring.
@emmalyn1997 , this may be a trick question. Draw a diagram of the equilibrium position.
 
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PeroK said:
That's correct.

What is ##x## here?
Sorry! X is the displacement so in this situation it would be 0.7 because it is 0.7m below equilibrium.
 
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emmalyn1997 said:
Sorry! X is the displacement so in this situation it would be 0.7 because it is 0.7m below equilibrium.
What was the relevance of displacing the mass by ##1m##?

What do you get if the mass is ##1m## below the equilibrium point. I.e. if ##x = 1m##?
 
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Here's an interesting numerical observation:
$$1^2 - 0.7^2 = 0.51 \approx 0.7^2$$Isn't that funny?
 
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FAQ: Questions about a spring-mass system hanging vertically

What is the natural frequency of a spring-mass system hanging vertically?

The natural frequency of a spring-mass system hanging vertically is determined by the formula \( f = \frac{1}{2\pi} \sqrt{\frac{k}{m}} \), where \( k \) is the spring constant and \( m \) is the mass of the object. This frequency is the rate at which the system oscillates when displaced from its equilibrium position and released.

How do you determine the equilibrium position of a spring-mass system hanging vertically?

The equilibrium position of a spring-mass system hanging vertically is found where the force of gravity on the mass is balanced by the restoring force of the spring. Mathematically, this is given by \( mg = kx \), where \( m \) is the mass, \( g \) is the acceleration due to gravity, \( k \) is the spring constant, and \( x \) is the displacement from the spring's natural length. Solving for \( x \) gives \( x = \frac{mg}{k} \).

What is the effect of damping on the oscillations of a spring-mass system hanging vertically?

Damping in a spring-mass system reduces the amplitude of oscillations over time. If damping is light, the system will oscillate with gradually decreasing amplitude. If damping is heavy, the system may return to equilibrium without oscillating. Critical damping results in the fastest return to equilibrium without oscillation, while over-damping results in a slower return to equilibrium.

How do you calculate the potential energy stored in the spring of a vertically hanging spring-mass system?

The potential energy stored in the spring when it is displaced by a distance \( x \) from its equilibrium position is given by \( PE = \frac{1}{2} k x^2 \), where \( k \) is the spring constant. This energy is stored as elastic potential energy in the spring.

How does the mass of the object affect the period of oscillation in a spring-mass system hanging vertically?

The period of oscillation \( T \) of a spring-mass system is directly related to the mass of the object and is given by \( T = 2\pi \sqrt{\frac{m}{k}} \), where \( m \) is the mass and \( k \) is the spring constant. As the mass increases, the period of oscillation also increases, meaning the system oscillates more slowly.

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