Questions about Equivalence principle & Einstein Elevator?

In summary: If the ball was released in the downward accelerating elevator far out in space, it would still accelerate downwards towards the floor at 9.8 meters/second2.
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zarmewa
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Einstein inoculated general relativity with the help of equivalence principle and space elevator as shown in the following link

http://www.astronomynotes.com/relativity/s3.htm

QUESTIONS

1- What is the direction of weight [force] of a person standing on the floor of aforementioned elevator? - upward means along the direction of “g” or downward means opposite to “g”

2- Would a person feel sensation of his weight if hanging either from the ceiling of aforementioned elevator or hanging from the bottom of its floor?

3- Shouldn't a person move towards the center of elevator due the universal law of gravitation; F = GMm/d^2?

4- Is shell theorem applicable to this case?

5- What would be the spacetime Geometry inside this elevatro?

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zarmewa said:
1- What is the direction of weight [force] of a person standing on the floor of aforementioned elevator? - upward means along the direction of “g” or downward means opposite to “g”

The force on the person in the accelerating elevator is the same as the force on the person standing in an elevator at rest at the surface of the Earth: the floor exerts an "upwards" force on the person, the person exerts a corresponding "downwards" force on the floor.

2- Would a person feel sensation of his weight if hanging either from the ceiling of aforementioned elevator or hanging from the bottom of its floor?

Yes, just like in the elevator at rest at the surface of the Earth.

3- Shouldn't a person move towards the center of elevator due the universal law of gravitation; F = GMm/d^2?

Any gravitational attraction between the person and the elevator is negligible compared to the force of the Earth's gravity on the person, or the force resulting from the acceleration of the elevator.

4- Is shell theorem applicable to this case?

See 3 above.

5- What would be the spacetime Geometry inside this elevator?

Locally flat.
 
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Thanks for your response - Great

As it is stated in the link

If a ball is dropped in the elevator at rest on the Earth, it will accelerate toward the floor with an acceleration of 9.8 meters/second2. A ball released in the upward accelerating elevator far out in space will also accelerate toward the floor at 9.8 meters/second2.

Shouldn’t the direction of a falling ball along the direction of acceleration “g” of elevator?

I mean why a ball accelerates toward the floor at 9.8 meters/second2 if released in the upward accelerating elevator far out in space?

It accelerates at same “g” but why in opposite direction to the acceleration "g" og elevator?
 
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Think of it this way: if you hold a ball inside the accelerating elevator, both you and the ball are accelerating with the elevator. As soon as you release the ball, it stops accelerating: the floor of the elevator now accelerates up towards the ball.
 
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:confused:My question might be not clear but

Q:Why do things fall on earth?
A:Due to gravity - along the direction of "g" So

What causes the ball to fall downward toward floor when the direction of gravitational acceleration is upward?
 
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There may be confusion between the terms "gravitational attraction" and acceleration. When you stand on the surface of the Earth, the Earth exerts a force on you ("gravitational attraction") in a certain direction, which you call "downwards". This is directly equivalent to standing on a platform which is accelerating in the opposite direction to this force.

This article expresses it succinctly:

The key idea of general relativity, called the equivalence principle, is that gravity pulling in one direction is completely equivalent to an acceleration in the opposite direction.
 
  • #7
My QUESTION is why do things fall on aforementioned floor of elevator when the direction of

1- Gravitational acceleration of elevator “ge” is upward [9.8 m/s/s]

2- Gravitational acceleration of person “gp” is upward [attract floor of elevator]

3- Gravitational acceleration of a ball ”gb” is upward [attract floor of elevator]

So what causes the ball to fall downward on the floor of elevator?
 
  • #8
zarmewa said:
So what causes the ball to fall downward on the floor of elevator?
It's all relative. The elevator accelerates upwards relative to the ball, so the ball accelerates downwards relative to the elevator.
 

FAQ: Questions about Equivalence principle & Einstein Elevator?

1. What is the Equivalence Principle?

The Equivalence Principle is a fundamental concept in physics that states that the effects of gravity and acceleration are indistinguishable from each other. This means that an object in freefall in a gravitational field will experience the same physical effects as an object in a uniformly accelerated frame of reference.

2. Who proposed the Equivalence Principle?

The Equivalence Principle was first proposed by Albert Einstein as part of his theory of General Relativity. He believed that the principle could help explain the relationship between gravity and acceleration.

3. What is an Einstein Elevator?

An Einstein Elevator is a thought experiment used to demonstrate the Equivalence Principle. It involves an elevator in outer space that is being pulled upwards by a rope, creating the sensation of gravity for the passengers inside. According to the principle, the passengers would be unable to determine whether the elevator is stationary in a gravitational field or accelerating upwards in outer space.

4. Why is the Equivalence Principle important?

The Equivalence Principle is important because it is a cornerstone of modern physics and has been essential in the development of theories such as General Relativity. It also helps us understand the relationship between gravity and acceleration, and how they affect the behavior of objects in the universe.

5. Are there any exceptions to the Equivalence Principle?

While the Equivalence Principle holds true in most cases, there are some exceptions. For example, at very small scales, such as that of subatomic particles, quantum mechanics becomes more relevant and the principle may not apply. Additionally, the equivalence between gravity and acceleration may break down in extreme gravitational fields, such as those near a black hole.

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