Questions about HUP, entanglement and coherence

In summary: B.Does Coherency between two self-incoherent photons again mean there is a fixed phase relationship between photon A and photon B however photon A and photon B are "individually" self-incoherent?Yes.9. In case of photon A being entangled with photon B:the more entangled (and hence coherent?) photon A is with Bthe less coherent it is with self.In other words:for A to be more coherent with BA needs to be less coherent with itself...What does being less coherent with itself mean?
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San K
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HUP --> Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle

The below questions maybe a bit amateurish.

1. Can two photons be entangled on both position and momentum?...for a same time period

I think not because:

To entangle on momentum (or any property) we need a broad distribution of momentum for the photon. Same for position. However a photon cannot have a broad distribution for both (?).

2. why is a broad distribution (for the property on which the two photons will be entangled) needed for entanglement?

or in other words

why are we not able to violate bell inequalities when the distribution is narrow?

3. In a single particle, double-slit experiment, when we do which-way:

at that point do we have a broader distribution for momentum since the positions has been narrowed?

4. Most of the mystery lies in HUP it seems.
For example complimentarity is just an expression/corollary of HUP.

Position & momentum are entangled
Time & energy are entangled (?)

Would a dimension analysis, like the one below, throw some light on HUP?

Can one find similarities between position-momentum AND time-energy via dimensional analysis?

What position (meters) is to (kgs*(meters/sec) ---> position is to momentum

Time (sec) is to Energy (kg*(meters^2/sec) -----> Time is to energy

It does not seem to work. Dimension analysis does not shed any light on HUP.

4 b) are all complimentarities reducible to one complimentarity?

5. We say position and momentum are complimentary.

Since the velocity of the photon is always c, Is (relativistic) mass not constant?...in the case of a photon

Thus why can we not say position and velocity are complimentary?

6. when we narrow the position distribution, the momentum distribution must spread out.

Is there any analogy in classical mechanics?

7. For a single photon -- what does it mean to be incoherent (or coherent)?

I guess - for a single photon -- the wave-function traveling the various paths can be made incoherent and that would somehow make the single photon incoherent.

8. Coherency between two "self-coherent" photons means that they have a fixed phase relationship (?)

The photons are self coherent and photon A has a fixed phase relationship with photon B.

Does Coherency between two self-incoherent photons again mean there is a fixed phase relationship between photon A and photon B however photon A and photon B are "individually" self-incoherent?

9. In case of photon A being entangled with photon B:

the more entangled (and hence coherent?) photon A is with B

the less coherent it is with self.

In other words:

for A to be more coherent with B

A needs to be less coherent with itself...

what does being less coherent with itself mean?
 
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San K said:
1. Can two photons be entangled on both position and momentum?...for a same time period
Yes (the time does not matter here).
To entangle on momentum (or any property) we need a broad distribution of momentum for the photon. Same for position. However a photon cannot have a broad distribution for both (?).
It cannot have a narrow distribution for both, but broad distributions are easy to get.
2. why is a broad distribution (for the property on which the two photons will be entangled) needed for entanglement?
You need the possibility to get different measurement results somewhere to have something you could call "entangled".
why are we not able to violate bell inequalities when the distribution is narrow?
Bell inequalities can be shown with polarization alone, there is no need to have any relevant position/momentum distribution.
3. In a single particle, double-slit experiment, when we do which-way:
at that point do we have a broader distribution for momentum since the positions has been narrowed?
Broader than what? Not necessarily.
Position & momentum are entangled
Time & energy are entangled (?)
Not in the way entanglement is used in quantum mechanics.
Would a dimension analysis, like the one below, throw some light on HUP?
If the product of two quantities has the units of the Planck constant, it is usually connected to an uncertainty relation.
4 b) are all complimentarities reducible to one complimentarity?
What do you mean with "reducible"?
5. We say position and momentum are complimentary.
Since the velocity of the photon is always c, Is (relativistic) mass not constant?...in the case of a photon
Constant with respect to what?
Both momentum and energy can have some broad distribution.
Thus why can we not say position and velocity are complimentary?
Why do you think this should be possible?
6. when we narrow the position distribution, the momentum distribution must spread out.
Only if you reach the lower limit of the product of the uncertainties.
Is there any analogy in classical mechanics?
Uncertainty exists in classical mechanics, too. Entanglement does not.
7. For a single photon -- what does it mean to be incoherent (or coherent)?
The same as it means everywhere.
I guess - for a single photon -- the waves traveling the various paths can be made incoherent and that would somehow make the single photon incoherent.
Right.
8. Coherency between two "self-coherent" photons means that they have a fixed phase relationship (?)
The photons are self coherent and photon A has a fixed phase relationship with photon B.
'"self-coherent" photons'? Probably right, but I am not sure what you are asking here.
Does Coherency between two self-incoherent photons again mean there is a fixed phase relationship between photon A and photon B however photon A and photon B are "individually" self-incoherent?
How is this supposed to look like?
9. In case of photon A being entangled with photon B:
the more entangled (and hence coherent?) photon A is with B
the less coherent it is with self.
In other words:
for A to be more coherent with B
A needs to be less coherent with itself...
what does being less coherent with itself mean?
That does not make sense I think.

(I removed some empty lines in the quotes to make the post easier to read).
 
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well answered mfb. thanks for taking the time to respond.
 

FAQ: Questions about HUP, entanglement and coherence

What is the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (HUP)?

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (HUP) is a fundamental principle in quantum mechanics that states that it is impossible to know both the exact position and momentum of a particle at the same time. This is because the act of measuring one property of a particle affects the other property, making it impossible to have a precise measurement of both simultaneously.

What is entanglement in quantum mechanics?

Entanglement is a phenomenon in quantum mechanics where two or more particles become connected in such a way that the state of one particle cannot be described without considering the state of the other particle(s). This means that the particles are inextricably linked, even if they are separated by large distances.

How does the concept of coherence relate to quantum mechanics?

Coherence refers to the property of a quantum system where its components are in a well-defined relationship with each other. In quantum mechanics, coherence is important because it allows for phenomena such as interference and superposition to occur. This is crucial for understanding the behavior of particles at the quantum level.

How does entanglement relate to the HUP?

Entanglement and the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (HUP) are both fundamental principles in quantum mechanics. While the HUP states that it is impossible to know both the position and momentum of a particle with certainty, entanglement allows for correlations between particles that violate classical notions of locality and separability. This means that entangled particles can have a relationship that is not limited by distance, making it impossible to precisely measure their properties simultaneously.

Can entanglement be used for practical applications?

Entanglement has been demonstrated in many experiments and has been shown to have potential applications in quantum computing, cryptography, and communication. However, harnessing entanglement for practical applications is still a major challenge due to the fragile nature of entangled states and the difficulty in maintaining them. Research and advances in this area are ongoing, and it is possible that entanglement may play a significant role in future technologies.

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