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In summary, the question asks to prove that if a relation R on a set A is symmetric, then the relation R² is also symmetric. The provided response explains the definition of composition of relations and how it applies to this scenario, ultimately concluding that R² is symmetric.
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Hello Quirino27,

If $U$ is a relation from $A$ to $B$ and $V$ a relation from $B$ to $C$, i.e. $U\subset A\times B$ and $V\subset B\times C$, then the relation $V\circ U$ from $A$ to $C$ is defined in the following way: $$(a,c)\in V\circ U\Leftrightarrow \exists b\in B:(a,b)\in U\mbox{ and } (b,c)\in V$$ In our case, suppose $(x,y)\in R^2=R\circ R$, then exists $y\in A$ such that $(x,y)\in R$ and $(y,z)\in R$. But $R$ is symmetric, so $(y,x)\in R$ and $(z,y)\in R$ and by definition of composition of relations, $(z,y)\in R^2$. That is, $R^2$ is symmetric. $\qquad \square$
 

FAQ: Quirino27's question at Yahoo Answers (R symmetric implies R^2 symmetric)

What does it mean for a relation to be R symmetric?

For a relation R to be R symmetric, it means that for any two elements a and b, if (a,b) is in R, then (b,a) must also be in R.

What does it mean for a relation to be R^2 symmetric?

R^2 symmetric means that for any two elements a and b, if (a,b) is in R^2 (the composition of R with itself), then (b,a) must also be in R^2.

How are R symmetric and R^2 symmetric related?

If a relation is R symmetric, it automatically implies that it is also R^2 symmetric. However, the converse is not necessarily true. A relation can be R^2 symmetric without being R symmetric.

Can you give an example of a relation that is R symmetric but not R^2 symmetric?

Yes, consider the relation R = {(1,2), (2,1), (1,1)}. This relation is R symmetric since (1,2) is in R, so is (2,1). However, (1,1) is not in R^2 as there is no pair (a,c) such that (1,c) is in R and (a,1) is in R.

Why is R^2 symmetric important in relation to R symmetric?

R^2 symmetric is important because it is a stronger property than R symmetric. It takes into account not only the direct pairs in R, but also the pairs that can be formed by composing R with itself. This can be useful in analyzing complex relations and understanding their properties.

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