Ratio of atomic masses of two ideal gases

In summary: M##, is the equation that proves that?In summary, the conversation discussed the solution to a problem involving the ratio of atomic mass and molar mass. Part (a) stated that ##n_A = n_B## and part (b) found the ratio of atomic mass to be ##M_A = 10M_B##. The definition of Avogadro's number, which is the number of molecules per mole, was also discussed. There was a spelling error in part (b) and the correct wording should be "ratio" instead of "ration". The conversation also mentioned the use of dimensional analysis to find the correct units for a mass of one atom, and the equation ##u ∝ M##
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The solution is, ##1:10##, however, is the wording correct? I don't see how to find the ratio of atomic mass, however, I can solve for the ratio of the molar mass.

##n_A = n_B## from part(a) by setting the internal energy equation for each ideal gas equal
##\frac{M_A}{m_A} = \frac{M_B}{m_B}##
##1000M_A = 10000M_B##
##M_A = 10M_B##

Is the reason they said that is because ##u ∝ M##. Is there a equation that proves that?

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What is the definition of Avagadro's number?
 
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hutchphd said:
What is the definition of Avagadro's number?
Thank you for your reply @hutchphd!

It is the number of molecules per 1 mol. So has units ##\frac{1}{mol}##

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I think there is also a spelling error in part(b) it should be ratio not ration
 
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hutchphd said:
What is the definition of Avagadro's number?
Do you please know whether my answer was correct @hutchphd ?

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It might be better to write it as ##\frac {number~ of~ molecules}{mole}## in this circumstance
 
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hutchphd said:
It might be better to write it as ##\frac {number~ of~ molecules}{mole}## in this circumstance
Thank you for your reply @hutchphd! I agree that is a much better way to write it. However, is the wording to this problem in post #1 wrong? Or dose Avagadro's number relate to this in some way.

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I found from dimensional analysis that the I can get correct units for a mass of one atom (atomic mass):## \frac{M_A}{N_A} = 10\frac{M_B}{N_A} ##
## u_A = 10u_B##
 

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What is the ratio of atomic masses of two ideal gases?

The ratio of atomic masses of two ideal gases is the quotient obtained by dividing the atomic mass of one gas by the atomic mass of the other gas. It is often used to compare the relative heaviness of the gas molecules.

How is the ratio of atomic masses of two ideal gases calculated?

The ratio of atomic masses of two ideal gases is calculated by taking the atomic mass (or molar mass) of one gas and dividing it by the atomic mass (or molar mass) of the other gas. For example, if gas A has an atomic mass of 4 g/mol and gas B has an atomic mass of 16 g/mol, the ratio is 4/16 or 1/4.

Why is the ratio of atomic masses important in gas laws?

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