Rational √n Percentages: 1 ≤ n ≤ 2000 & 1 ≤ n ≤ 10,000

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In summary, we discussed the question of what percentage of √n, where n E Z (n is an element of integers), are rational, where a) 1 ≤ n ≤ 2000 and b) 1 ≤ n ≤ 10,000. We then clarified the need for a measure on the set of integers in order to find a percentage. We also discussed the concept of perfect square integers and determined that there are 44 perfect square integers and 2000 total integers from 1 to 2000. This means that approximately 2.2% of the integers from 1 to 2000 are perfect squares.
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What percentage of √n, where n E Z (n is an element of integers), are rational, where

a) 1 ≤ n ≤ 2000.

b) 1 ≤ n ≤ 10,000.

No idea how to go about this, any help?
 
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phospho said:
What percentage of √n, where n E Z (n is an element of integers), are rational, where

a) 1 ≤ n ≤ 2000.

b) 1 ≤ n ≤ 10,000.

No idea how to go about this, any help?


What is √(2000) ?

What is √(10,000) ?
 
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SammyS said:
What is √(2000) ?

What is √(10,000) ?

20√5 and 100, I don't see where you're going with this. Also no calculators are to be used for future reference
 
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phospho said:
20√5 and 100, I don't see where you're going with this. Also no calculators are to be used for future reference
Find the largest integer whose square is less than 2000 .

402 = 1600 .

502 = 2500 .

Look at 442 & 452 .
 
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Before you can ask "What percentage of √n, where n E Z (n is an element of integers), are rational" you have to specify a measure on the set of integers. To find a percentage you have to have a ratio and to have a ratio here you need a size for each set.
 
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phospho said:
What percentage of √n, where n E Z (n is an element of integers), are rational, where

a) 1 ≤ n ≤ 2000.

b) 1 ≤ n ≤ 10,000.

No idea how to go about this, any help?

If an integer does not have an integer square root, does it have a rational square root?

RGV
 
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Ray Vickson said:
If an integer does not have an integer square root, does it have a rational square root?

RGV

No

HallsofIvy said:
Before you can ask "What percentage of √n, where n E Z (n is an element of integers), are rational" you have to specify a measure on the set of integers. To find a percentage you have to have a ratio and to have a ratio here you need a size for each set.

That's the whole question I have been given

SammyS said:
Find the largest integer whose square is less than 2000 .

402 = 1600 .

502 = 2500 .

Look at 442 & 452 .
oh I see, so I how would I go about finding the percentage?
 
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phospho said:
No

That's the whole question I have been given

oh I see, so I how would I go about finding the percentage?
How many perfect square integers are there from 1 to 2000 ?

How many integers are there from 1 to 2000 ?
 
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SammyS said:
How many perfect square integers are there from 1 to 2000 ?

How many integers are there from 1 to 2000 ?

So 2.2 and 1%?
 
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phospho said:
So 2.2 and 1%?

Yep.
 
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SammyS said:
How many perfect square integers are there from 1 to 2000 ?

How many integers are there from 1 to 2000 ?

phospho said:
So 2.2 and 1%?

These are not the answers to the questions that Sammy asked.
 
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Mark44 said:
These are not the answers to the questions that Sammy asked.
Thanks Mark.

I was also disappointed with OP's response, even though he/she did finally solve the given problem.
 
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Mark44 said:
These are not the answers to the questions that Sammy asked.

SammyS said:
Thanks Mark.

I was also disappointed with OP's response, even though he/she did finally solve the given problem.

Sorry to disappoint didn't really want to waste much more of your time as I got the answer,

How many perfect square integers are there from 1 to 2000 ? 44

How many integers are there from 1 to 2000 ? 2000

thank you again.
 
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Thanks for clarifying this, phospho. The reason for my comment was that a member might read this thread, and wonder how you determined that there were 2.2 perfect squares in the first 2000 integers.
 

FAQ: Rational √n Percentages: 1 ≤ n ≤ 2000 & 1 ≤ n ≤ 10,000

What are rational √n percentages?

Rational √n percentages are percentages that can be expressed as the square root of a rational number. In other words, the percentage can be written as a fraction with a square root in the numerator and a whole number in the denominator.

What is the range of n for these percentages?

The range of n for these percentages is between 1 and 2000 for the first set of numbers and between 1 and 10,000 for the second set. This means that the square root of any number within these ranges can be expressed as a rational percentage.

Why are these percentages important?

These percentages are important because they can be used to represent fractions in a more visually intuitive way. They can also be helpful in certain calculations and can provide a better understanding of the relationship between fractions and percentages.

How are these percentages calculated?

To calculate a rational √n percentage, you simply take the square root of the chosen number and express it as a fraction. For example, if n = 25, the rational √n percentage would be √25/1 or 5/1, which is equivalent to 500%.

Can irrational numbers be expressed as rational √n percentages?

No, irrational numbers cannot be expressed as rational √n percentages because they cannot be written as a fraction with a square root in the numerator and a whole number in the denominator. Only numbers that can be expressed as a ratio of two integers can be written as rational √n percentages.

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