Rearrange formula and work out phase angle

In summary, the conversation discussed the values of amplitude and frequency, as well as obtaining the phase angle for a sinusoidal wave. It was mentioned that the phase angle can be obtained by plugging in a value for t, reading off the y value from the graph, and solving the equation. The ambiguity in evaluating ##\arcsin## was also addressed, and it was suggested to use two points for more accuracy. Finally, there was a disagreement about the correct method for obtaining the phase angle.
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Homework Statement
work out what ip, f and phase angle is, then rearrange the formula to make t the subject and find out at what point in time does 6.78 amp occur
i = Ipsin (2pi f t - phase angle)

so far i think Ip = 10 f = 1000hz
struggling with the phase angle
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i = Ipsin (2pi f t - phase angle)
so far i think Ip = 10 f = 1000hz
struggling with the phase angle
 
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I confirm your amplitude and frequency values.
To get the phase angle, plug in a value for t, read off the y value from the graph and solve the equation. You will need to do that for at least two points because of the ambiguity in evaluating ##\arcsin##.
 
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Shouldn't the amplitude have units?
haruspex said:
To get the phase angle, plug in a value for t, read off the y value from the graph and solve the equation. You will need to do that for at least two points because of the ambiguity in evaluating ##\arcsin##.
Can the phase angle not be obtained by noting that at t = 0 the sinusoidal is at a minimum?
 
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kuruman said:
Shouldn't the amplitude have units?

Can the phase angle not be obtained by noting that at t = 0 the sinusoidal is at a minimum?
I should have written "you may have to". I was trying to be general.
 
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i could be very wrong here, but i worked out the angle to be 90 degrees ?
i full cycle of the wave is 0.001 s and the delay from 0 is 0.00025 s
360 x 0.00025 / 0.001 = 90
 
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That's not what @haruspex suggested ... but I agree.

Easy:
##I = I_p\sin (2\pi f t - \phi)\quad ## pick ##t=0## and solve ##\sin(-\phi)=-1\ ##

Personally, I prefer to imagine the graph for ##\phi = 0## and conclude that a shift of ##-{\pi\over 4}## to the right yields the given graph. Therefore ##\ -\phi=-{\pi\over 4}##

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FAQ: Rearrange formula and work out phase angle

What is the phase angle in a sinusoidal function?

The phase angle in a sinusoidal function is the measure of the shift of the wave relative to a reference point. It is typically expressed in degrees or radians and indicates how much the wave is shifted horizontally from a standard position.

How do you rearrange a formula to solve for the phase angle?

To rearrange a formula to solve for the phase angle, you typically isolate the term involving the phase angle on one side of the equation. This often involves using inverse trigonometric functions like arcsin, arccos, or arctan to solve for the angle. For example, if you have a sinusoidal function of the form y = A sin(ωt + φ), you can rearrange it to solve for φ (the phase angle).

What is the significance of the phase angle in AC circuits?

In AC circuits, the phase angle indicates the difference in phase between the voltage and the current. It is crucial for understanding the power factor, which measures how effectively the circuit converts electrical power into useful work. A phase angle of 0 degrees means voltage and current are in phase, while a phase angle of 90 degrees means they are completely out of phase.

How do you calculate the phase angle between two sinusoidal signals?

To calculate the phase angle between two sinusoidal signals, you can use the cross-correlation method or directly measure the time difference between the peaks of the two signals. The phase angle φ can be found using the formula φ = (Δt / T) * 360 degrees, where Δt is the time difference between corresponding points on the signals, and T is the period of the signals.

Can the phase angle be negative, and what does it mean?

Yes, the phase angle can be negative. A negative phase angle indicates that the wave is shifted to the left relative to the reference point. In other words, the wave reaches its peak earlier than the reference wave. This is often described as a phase lead.

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