Rearranging Differential Equations: Getting X's and Y's on the Same Side

In summary, the conversation is about a differential equation and how to rearrange it to get x and y on the same side. The solution involves dividing by y and then multiplying by dx. There is confusion about how to integrate the equation, but it is a simple multiplication. The conversation ends with the person thanking for the help and wishing a happy new year.
  • #1
specwarop
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Gday,
Just having a problem doing the initial rearrangement, before I integrate it, of the following differential equation to get the y's and x's on the same side:

(x2+1)y' = xy


Can anyone help me out with this? I've been trying all day to get both x and y on either side but I can't manage. Is there a trick to it?
Any help appreciated!

Thanks
Matthew
 
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  • #2
just divide?
x/(x^2+1) = y'/y
 
  • #3
Yeh but then on the right side you have (dy/dx)/y
How would you then get the dx over to the left side?

Regards
 
  • #4
multiply

[tex]
\frac{x}{\left(x^2+1\right)} = \frac{1}{y} \frac{dy}{dx}
[/tex]
[tex]
\frac{x dx}{\left(x^2+1\right)} = \frac{1}{y} dy
[/tex]
 
  • #5
Okay sweet, thanks for that.
Next dumb question, how do you integrate the left side when dx is up the top like that?

Thanks for your help!
 
  • #6
there is no "up top", its all the same, its just a simple multiplication, nothing new or crazy.
[tex]
\frac{x}{x^2+1} dx
[/tex]

and try u=x^2+1
 
  • #7
Thanks man for your help! Ill have a look at it again tomorrow!
For now, its new years eve time! Have fun!
 

FAQ: Rearranging Differential Equations: Getting X's and Y's on the Same Side

What are differential equations?

Differential equations are mathematical equations that describe the relationship between a function and its derivatives. They are used to model real-world phenomena and are fundamental in many areas of science and engineering.

Why are differential equations important?

Differential equations are important because they allow us to understand and predict the behavior of systems in the natural world. They are used in fields such as physics, engineering, economics, and biology to solve problems and make predictions.

What are some common types of differential equations?

Some common types of differential equations include ordinary differential equations, which involve only one independent variable, and partial differential equations, which involve multiple independent variables. Other types include linear and nonlinear differential equations, and first-order and second-order differential equations.

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