Reference points in a moving system

In summary, the conversation discusses a review sheet where the equations for two colliding particles are given. The first equation is understood, but the second equation implies that the two masses travel at the same speed after collision. The conversation also clarifies that the two particles stick together after collision, leading to the equation being a "must be" rather than an assumption.
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Homework Statement



I have been looking at one of my review sheets, and do not know how the professor got the equations.

Here is the relevant paragraph:

Consider two particles of mass m1 and m2 isolated within a box, with respect to which
they have velocities u1 and u2. The box is moving at a steady v0 relative to some external
frame of reference. At some instant, the particles collide and coalesce. The momentum just
before and just after this event must be respectively

Homework Equations



Pbefore = mass1(u1+v0) + mass2(u2+v0)

Pafter = (mass1+mass2)(v1+v0)

The Attempt at a Solution



The first equation I understand, but doesn't the second equation imply that both masses are traveling the same speed? Why would two different masses collide and then travel the same velocity?

I'm confused because the paragraph says it MUST BE this, implying I'm not getting something, rather than ASSUME, which would be setting conditions.
 
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The problem description describes that the two particles "collide and coalesce". The later means that the two particles stick together after the collision and, hence, they travel with same velocity. Given a priori that the two particle stick together, the momumentum written as Pafter is a "must be" thing (assuming here that v1 is the velocity of the two particles relative to the box after collision).
 
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Thanks for the reply!
 

FAQ: Reference points in a moving system

1. What is a reference point in a moving system?

A reference point in a moving system is a fixed point or object that is used to measure the motion of other objects in the system. It can be any point or object, as long as it remains constant in relation to the objects being observed.

2. Why is a reference point important in understanding motion?

A reference point is important because it provides a frame of reference to measure the motion of objects in a moving system. Without a reference point, it would be difficult to determine the speed, direction, and acceleration of the objects in the system.

3. Can the reference point in a moving system change?

Yes, the reference point in a moving system can change depending on the observer's perspective. For example, if you are standing in a moving train, the reference point for measuring the motion of objects inside the train would be different from the reference point outside the train.

4. How does the choice of reference point affect the measurement of motion?

The choice of reference point can affect the measurement of motion as it determines the position, velocity, and acceleration of the objects in the system. Different reference points may result in different measurements of the same motion.

5. Is there a universal reference point in a moving system?

No, there is no universal reference point in a moving system. The choice of reference point is relative and can vary depending on the observer's perspective and the objects being observed. However, in some cases, a fixed object on Earth's surface or a celestial object can be used as a reference point for measuring motion on a larger scale.

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