Reformulating the Hamilton-Jacobi equation: A step-by-step guide

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The discussion focuses on reformulating the Hamilton-Jacobi equation, specifically how to rearrange it to express the relationship |\nabla W| = \sqrt{2m(E-V)}. Participants clarify that separating variables is a standard approach when the Hamiltonian is time-independent. One suggested form for W is W(t,x,y,z) = -E t + W(x,y,z). The conversation emphasizes the need for a step-by-step derivation to achieve the desired equation. Overall, the thread seeks clarity on the mathematical manipulation of the Hamilton-Jacobi equation.
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The Hamilton-Jacobi equation

\frac{\partial W}{\partial t}+\frac{1}{2m}\left[\left(\frac{\partial W}{\partial x}\right)^2+\left(\frac{\partial W}{\partial y}\right)^2+\left(\frac{\partial W}{\partial z}\right)^2\right] + V(x,y,z) = 0

It is said that this can be re-formulated as |\nabla W| = \sqrt{2m(E-V)}.

This part is unclear. How do I rearrange the equation to fit that equation? I know the \nabla is the gradient expressing the three dimensional rectangular coordinates, but I am unsure as to how to rearrange the formula completely so a derivation step-by-step would be appreciated.

Thanks
 
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I think one makes a separation

W(t,x,y,z) = -E t + W(x,y,z)
 
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dextercioby said:
I think one makes a separation

W(t,x,y,z,t) = -E t + W(x,y,z)

You have the time notation twice in the first parenthesis. Did you mean this?
 
Sorry, it's been corrected now. The separation is standard if the Hamiltonian is time-independent.
 
Ok thank you.
 
Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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