Related Rates - Differential Equations

In summary, the ladder, which is 13m long, is sliding horizontally away from the wall at a rate of 2ms-1. The top of the ladder is sliding down the wall at a rate of -4.8ms-1. The angle subtended from the ground by the ladder is changing at a rate of -y/x^2. The use of implicit differentiation and the chain rule is necessary in this problem.
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Homework Statement


A ladder, of length 13m, is leaning against a wall. The base of the ladder begins to slide, frictionless, away from the wall; by the time the base is horizontally 12m away from the wall it is moving at a rate of 2ms-1

a)How fast is the top of the ladder sliding down the wall?

b)At what rate is the angle subtended from the ground by the ladder changing by?

Homework Equations


Assuming that
[tex]\dot{y} = \frac{dy}{dt}[/tex],
[tex]\dot{x} = \frac{dx}{dt}[/tex],
[tex]y' = \frac{dy}{dx}[/tex]

[tex]y' = \dot{y} \times \dot{x}^{-1}[/tex] (chain rule)
Implicit Differentiation(basic)
Pythagoras' Theorem

The Attempt at a Solution


First I drew a right angle triangle with the ladder as the hypotenuse and labelled the sides y(the wall) and x(the ground).

Then I get that, when;
[tex]x = 12 , \dot{x} = 2[/tex]

Also;
[tex]y = \sqrt{13^{2} - x^{2}}[/tex]

The next part I did only because I had to use implicit differentiation at some point in this.

[tex]y^{2} = 13^{2} - x^{2}[/tex]

[tex]2yy' = -2x[/tex]

[tex] y' = \frac{-2x}{2y}[/tex]

Now rearrange the chain rule equation to get;

[tex]\dot{y} = y' \times \dot{x}[/tex]

[tex]\dot{y} = \frac{-4x}{2y}[/tex]

[tex]\dot{y} = \frac{-2x}{y}[/tex]

To which I then sub in my values for when x = 12

[tex]\dot{y} = \frac{-2(12)}{({13^{2} - 12^{2})^{\frac{1}{2}}}[/tex]

[tex]\dot{y} = -4.8ms^{-1}[/tex]

I think the first part is right, but I am having trouble with part (b)

I assume it has something to do with
[tex]\tan\Theta = \frac{y}{x}[/tex]

But I can't differentiate that(actually, I can, I just can't seem to get any sensible kind of answer).

All I'm thinking right now is;
[tex]\frac{d}{dx}(\tan\Theta) = -\frac{y}{x^2}[/tex]

Does anybody know if this is the right way to go?
 
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Since you're looking for dθ/dt, try differentiating with respect to t instead of x.
 
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vela said:
Since you're looking for dθ/dt, try differentiating with respect to t instead of x.

I would, but the point is I have to use the chain rule as many times as I can. The points scored in the exercise are 5 for a correct answer and 2 for either the use of implicit differentiation or the chain rule. This is basic, I know, but we fail if we get less than 16 points.
 
  • #4
You get to use the chain rule and implicit differentiation if you differentiate with respect to t.
 

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