Related rates problem for the dimensions of a cylinder

In summary, the related rates problem for the dimensions of a cylinder involves determining how the changes in one dimension, such as the radius or height, affect the volume or surface area of the cylinder over time. By applying the principles of calculus, particularly implicit differentiation, one can relate the rates of change of the cylinder's dimensions to derive a relationship between them. This type of problem often requires setting up equations for the volume or surface area and then differentiating with respect to time to find the desired rate of change.
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TL;DR Summary: related rates problem

The radius of a cylinder is increasing at a constant rate of 3 meters per minute. The volume remains a constant 1115 cubic meters. At the instant when the height of the cylinder is 44 meters, what is the rate of change of the height?
 
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nikk33213 said:
TL;DR Summary: related rates problem

The radius of a cylinder is increasing at a constant rate of 3 meters per minute. The volume remains a constant 1115 cubic meters. At the instant when the height of the cylinder is 44 meters, what is the rate of change of the height?
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given: dr/dt=3, v=1115, h = 44, dh/dt = ?
v= (pi)r^2(h)
dv/dt = 2(pi)r(dr/dt)(h) + (pi)r^2(dh/dt)
0 = 2(pi)r(3)(44) + (pi)r^2(dh/dt)

1115 = (pi)r^2(44)
r = 2.84012

0 = 2(pi)*3*2.84012*44 + (pi)(8.066262)(dh/dt)
(-2355.540034)/(25.340909) = dh/dt

-92.954 = dh/dt

Is this correct?
 
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nikk33213 said:
given: dr/dt=3, v=1115, h = 44, dh/dt = ?
v= (pi)r^2(h)
dv/dt = 2(pi)r(dr/dt)(h) + (pi)r^2(dh/dt)
0 = 2(pi)r(3)(44) + (pi)r^2(dh/dt)

1115 = (pi)r^2(44)
r = 2.84012

0 = 2(pi)*3*2.84012*44 + (pi)(8.066262)(dh/dt)
(-2355.540034)/(25.340909) = dh/dt

-92.954 = dh/dt

Is this correct?
I don't get that result.

Use latex to present your solution, It's not going to take you long to learn ( it's a very natural extension to what you are already doing) see LaTeX Guide Please, leave it all in variables, plug in values only as the very last step.
 
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Never mind, I missed a factor of ##h## in there; it checks out(other than the lack of presented units and extra sig figs).

$$ \frac{dh}{dt} = -2 h \sqrt{ \frac{\pi h }{V}} \frac{dr}{dt} $$
 
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nikk33213 said:
-92.954 = dh/dt
Is this correct?
No, as it does not include units. All of the dimensions and rates are given with units. The solution should also include the relevant units.
 
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nikk33213 said:
TL;DR Summary: related rates problem

The radius of a cylinder is increasing at a constant rate of 3 meters per minute. The volume remains a constant 1115 cubic meters. At the instant when the height of the cylinder is 44 meters, what is the rate of change of the height?
When the radius of the cylinder is increasing at a constant rate and the volume remains constant, the rate of change of the height can be found using the formula:

Rate of change of height = (constant volume) / (π * radius^2)

So, at the instant when the height of the cylinder is 44 meters, the rate of change of the height is:

Rate of change of height = 1115 / (π * radius^2)

We need to find the radius at this instant. Since the volume of the cylinder is constant, we can use the formula for the volume of a cylinder:

Volume = π * radius^2 * height

Given that the volume is 1115 cubic meters and the height is 44 meters, we can rearrange the formula to solve for the radius:

Radius^2 = Volume / (π * height)

Now, we can plug in the values:

Radius^2 = 1115 / (π * 44)

Then, we find the square root of the result to get the radius:

Radius ≈ √(1115 / (π * 44))

Once we have the radius, we can substitute it into the formula for the rate of change of height to find the rate of change of the height.

This is the simple explanation of how to find the rate of change of the height of the cylinder when its volume is constant and the radius is increasing at a constant rate.
 
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naveed said:
When the radius of the cylinder is increasing at a constant rate and the volume remains constant, the rate of change of the height can be found using the formula:

Rate of change of height = (constant volume) / (π * radius^2)
Your formula doesn't take into account that the radius is changing, so this really is just a formula for the height, not ##\frac{dh}{dt}##.
 
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Mark44 said:
Your formula doesn't take into account that the radius is changing, so this really is just a formula for the height, not dhdt.
Apologies for any confusion. To incorporate changing radius, you'll need to use a formula that considers both height and radius variation.
 
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naveed said:
Apologies for any confusion. To incorporate changing radius, you'll need to use a formula that considers both height and radius variation.
In other words, ##\frac{dh}{dt}## and ##\frac{dr}{dt}##. To get these you need to use some calculus.
 

FAQ: Related rates problem for the dimensions of a cylinder

What is a related rates problem?

A related rates problem involves finding the rate at which one quantity changes in relation to another quantity that is also changing over time. In the context of a cylinder, it often involves determining how changes in dimensions, such as radius or height, affect the volume or surface area of the cylinder.

How do I set up a related rates problem for a cylinder?

To set up a related rates problem for a cylinder, first identify the quantities that are changing (e.g., radius, height, volume). Then, express the relationship between these quantities using formulas (e.g., volume \( V = \pi r^2 h \)). Differentiate these equations with respect to time to relate the rates of change.

What formulas are commonly used in related rates problems involving cylinders?

The most common formulas used include the volume of a cylinder \( V = \pi r^2 h \) and the surface area \( A = 2\pi r(h + r) \). These formulas can be differentiated to find relationships between the rates of change of radius, height, volume, and surface area.

What is the significance of the chain rule in related rates problems?

The chain rule is crucial in related rates problems because it allows you to relate the rates of change of different variables. When differentiating a function of multiple variables, the chain rule helps you express how the rate of change of one variable affects another, enabling you to find the desired rate of change.

Can you provide an example of a related rates problem involving a cylinder?

Sure! For example, consider a cylinder with a radius that is increasing at a rate of 2 cm/s while the height remains constant. To find how fast the volume is increasing, you would use the volume formula \( V = \pi r^2 h \). By differentiating with respect to time and substituting the known rates, you can calculate the rate of change of the volume.

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