MHB Relation between null and column space

Dethrone
Messages
716
Reaction score
0
Is there a relationship between 1 and 2. If so, is it 1 implies 2, 2 implies 1, or if and only if.
1) $\operatorname{null}A=\operatorname{null}B$
2) $\operatorname{col}\operatorname{rref}A=\operatorname{col}\operatorname{rref }B$
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Rido12 said:
Is there a relationship between 1 and 2. If so, is it 1 implies 2, 2 implies 1, or if and only if.
1) $\operatorname{null}A=\operatorname{null}B$
2) $\operatorname{col}\operatorname{rref}A=\operatorname{col}\operatorname{rref }B$

Hey Rido! ;)

Nice operatornames! (Mmm)

Actually, I'm not quite clear on what $\operatorname{col}$ is supposed to mean.
It it the column space? Or the rank of the column space?
Can you clarify?

And what about $\operatorname{null}$? Is it whether the matrix is a null matrix, or is it the kernel $\operatorname{ker}$? (Wondering)
 
I like Serena said:
Hey Rido! ;)

Nice operatornames! (Mmm)

Actually, I'm not quite clear on what $\operatorname{col}$ is supposed to mean.
It it the column space? Or the rank of the column space?
Can you clarify?

And what about $\operatorname{null}$? Is it whether the matrix is a null matrix, or is it the kernel $\operatorname{ker}$? (Wondering)
$\DeclareMathOperator{\adj}{adj}$
$\DeclareMathOperator{\null}{null}$
$\DeclareMathOperator{\col}{col}$

Hi ILS! :D

$\col A$ represents the column space of $A$, so in this case, it is the column space of the row reduced form of $A$. The matrix is the null matrix.
 
Let's pick a couple of simple matrices. (Thinking)

Say $A=(^{2\ 0}_{0\ 0})$ and $B=(^{0\ 3}_{0\ 0})$.

What are $\operatorname{null} A$ and $\operatorname{null} B$?
And $\operatorname{rref} A, \operatorname{rref} B$?
And $\operatorname{col} \operatorname{rref} A, \operatorname{col} \operatorname{rref} B$?

Do they give you a clue? (Wondering)
 
Thread 'Derivation of equations of stress tensor transformation'
Hello ! I derived equations of stress tensor 2D transformation. Some details: I have plane ABCD in two cases (see top on the pic) and I know tensor components for case 1 only. Only plane ABCD rotate in two cases (top of the picture) but not coordinate system. Coordinate system rotates only on the bottom of picture. I want to obtain expression that connects tensor for case 1 and tensor for case 2. My attempt: Are these equations correct? Is there more easier expression for stress tensor...
Back
Top