Relative Observed Speed: Earth-Falling Objects & Time Dilation

In summary: The two effects are exactly equal and opposite for a clock in free fall, so the clock will run at the same rate whether it's falling towards the Earth or not.
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LM542
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When an object is flying to the Earth and it's increasing it's speed through gravity, does a remote observer see this increase of speed too, or will he see the object moving at a constant speed?

And another question:
Is there any time dilation by the remains of an object that hits a planet (that is not spinning), compared to an object that's flying in the same orbit as the planet. The first object has lost it's momentum and is now moving with the same speed as the second object. Is the time dilation on both objects the same?
 
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LM542 said:
When an object is flying to the Earth and it's increasing it's speed through gravity, does a remote observer see this increase of speed too

By "speed" I assume you mean "speed relative to the Earth". Speed is relative, so you have to specify what it is relative to.

Assuming that's what you meant, then yes, a remote observer, assuming he was able to see the object in the first place (and the Earth, for that matter), would see the object's speed relative to the Earth increasing.

LM542 said:
Is there any time dilation by the remains of an object that hits a planet (that is not spinning), compared to an object that's flying in the same orbit as the planet.

It depends on the planet and the trajectories the two objects are following. In general, yes, an object's elapsed time in a curved spacetime depends on the path the object takes through spacetime.

LM542 said:
Is the time dilation on both objects the same?

Time dilation in a gravitational field doesn't just depend on speed. It also depends on altitude. You haven't given enough information to compare the time dilation of the two objects.
 
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@PeterDonis:
1. Doesn't the time slows down for the object?
The closer the object comes to the Earth the slower it's time goes, so shouldn't the remote observer see a constant motion?

2. Does gravity even have a time dilation effect on matter that's not giving into gravity? The time of an object that's flying to the Earth (right before it reaches the ground) is slower than an object that's lying on the ground, but when it's hitting the ground it, it will be the same.
 
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LM542 said:
Doesn't the time slows down for the object?

Not according to the object. According to the remote observer, yes, the object's time will appear to go slower, but that's a separate thing from the speed the remote observer measures for the object.

It is true that, if the central mass is not the Earth but a black hole, the object's motion will appear to the remote observer to slow down when it gets close to the hole's horizon. (The Earth is nowhere near compact enough for its mass for any effect like this to show up.) But up until that point, the object will appear to the remote observer to be speeding up.

LM542 said:
Does gravity even have a time dilation effect on matter that's not giving into gravity?

Yes. In a static gravitational field like that of the Earth, gravitational time dilation is a function of altitude--a clock at a lower altitude runs slower. There is also kinematic time dilation, which is a function of speed--a clock moving faster relative to the Earth runs slower.
 

FAQ: Relative Observed Speed: Earth-Falling Objects & Time Dilation

What is relative observed speed in relation to Earth-falling objects?

Relative observed speed refers to the rate at which an object appears to be falling in relation to an observer on Earth. This speed is affected by factors such as air resistance, gravity, and the observer's perspective.

How does time dilation affect the relative observed speed of Earth-falling objects?

Time dilation refers to the phenomenon where time appears to move slower for an object in motion compared to an object at rest. This means that for an observer on Earth, an object in motion will appear to be falling at a slower rate due to the time difference between the object and the observer.

Can time dilation affect the rate at which objects fall on Earth?

Yes, time dilation can affect the rate at which objects fall on Earth. This is because the time difference between the object and the observer can cause the object to appear to be falling at a slower rate than it actually is.

How is the relative observed speed of Earth-falling objects measured?

The relative observed speed of Earth-falling objects can be measured using instruments such as stopwatches, cameras, and motion sensors. These instruments can track the time it takes for an object to fall a certain distance, allowing for the calculation of its relative observed speed.

Are there any real-world applications of understanding relative observed speed and time dilation?

Yes, understanding relative observed speed and time dilation is crucial in fields such as physics and engineering. It helps in predicting the behavior of objects in motion and designing structures that can withstand the effects of gravity and time dilation.

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