Relativistic Aberration Formula & Lorentz Transformation

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of relativistic aberration and its formula, and whether it can be derived using analytical geometry instead of the typical velocity addition process. It is explained that the formula can be derived using the path of a single light ray in different coordinate systems, and the angle is an observer-dependent quantity. It is also mentioned that the suggested method of deriving the formula should work, but it would need to be tested through calculations.
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Tahmeed
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Let's assume that a light source is moving parralel to x-axis and is in point x,y,z in lab frame. Suppose it emits a light ray. In the rest frame that coincides with the lab frame, the light source is in point x',y and z.
However, because of relativistic aberration the two light rays will make different angle with origin. Obviously, in the rest frame the light ray will create a straight line from origin to the source x',y,z that has a certain slope theta. This theta will be transformed by relativistic aberration equation. But will this transformed ray pass through point x,y,z in the lab frame? If that's the case, can't we use analytical geometry of straight lines to derive the aberration formula instead of using typical velocity addition process??
 
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I'm not sure I understand the question. Conceptually, if you have a single light ray, it follows a specific path through space-time which can be regarded as being independent of the observer.

One observer might use (t,x,y,z) coordinates, the other observer might use (t', x', y', z') coordinates, but they are just different descriptions (labels) by different observers of the same "reality". The last point is a bit philsophical, of course, but that's a convenient description of something that can be expressed in observer independent terms.

One can regard the light ray as consisting of a set of points (events) in space-time. One can transform the individual points (t,x,y,z) which comprise this set of points which represent the light ray from the unprimed coordinates to primed coordinates (t', x', y', z') via the Lorentz transform. So knowing the path in one coordinate system allows one to compute the path in any other coordinate system as long as the new coordinate system is adequately specified. In this example, sepcifying the relative velocity of the two coordinate systems and one shared point is sufficient to define the relationship between the primed and unprimed coordinates.

The angle is an observer-dependent quantity which then can be calculated from the set of points that make up the light ray. Contrast the observer dependence of the angle, with the non-observer dependent quantities previously discussed.
 
  • #3
pervect said:
I'm not sure I understand the question. Conceptually, if you have a single light ray, it follows a specific path through space-time which can be regarded as being independent of the observer.

One observer might use (t,x,y,z) coordinates, the other observer might use (t', x', y', z') coordinates, but they are just different descriptions (labels) by different observers of the same "reality". The last point is a bit philsophical, of course, but that's a convenient description of something that can be expressed in observer independent terms.

One can regard the light ray as consisting of a set of points (events) in space-time. One can transform the individual points (t,x,y,z) which comprise this set of points which represent the light ray from the unprimed coordinates to primed coordinates (t', x', y', z') via the Lorentz transform. So knowing the path in one coordinate system allows one to compute the path in any other coordinate system as long as the new coordinate system is adequately specified. In this example, sepcifying the relative velocity of the two coordinate systems and one shared point is sufficient to define the relationship between the primed and unprimed coordinates.

The angle is an observer-dependent quantity which then can be calculated from the set of points that make up the light ray. Contrast the observer dependence of the angle, with the non-observer dependent quantities previously discussed.

Yes, you got my question right. So, the relativistic aberration formula can be derived the way I suggested then?
 
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Tahmeed said:
Yes, you got my question right. So, the relativistic aberration formula can be derived the way I suggested then?

I'd say that it should work - the real proof is in actually carrying out the calculations and comparing the answers, though.
 

Related to Relativistic Aberration Formula & Lorentz Transformation

1. What is the Relativistic Aberration Formula?

The Relativistic Aberration Formula is a mathematical equation used to calculate the apparent angle of a moving object as observed from a different frame of reference. It takes into account the effects of both motion and the finite speed of light, and is an important component of Einstein's theory of relativity.

2. How is the Relativistic Aberration Formula derived?

The Relativistic Aberration Formula is derived from the Lorentz Transformation equations, which describe how space and time coordinates are affected by relative motion. It takes into account the principles of special relativity, including time dilation and length contraction, to calculate the apparent angle of a moving object.

3. What is the significance of the Relativistic Aberration Formula?

The Relativistic Aberration Formula is significant because it helps us understand and predict the effects of relative motion and the finite speed of light. It has been confirmed by numerous experiments and is an essential part of our understanding of the universe at a fundamental level.

4. How is the Relativistic Aberration Formula different from the classical formula?

The classical formula for aberration, developed by James Bradley in the 18th century, does not take into account the effects of relativity and assumes an infinite speed of light. The Relativistic Aberration Formula corrects for these assumptions and provides a more accurate calculation of the apparent angle of a moving object.

5. How does the Relativistic Aberration Formula impact our daily lives?

The Relativistic Aberration Formula has significant implications for modern technology, such as GPS systems, which rely on precise timing and the effects of relativity to function accurately. It also helps us understand the behavior of objects traveling at high speeds, such as spacecraft and particles in accelerators.

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