Relativity: Number of Signals an astronaut receives from earth

In summary, the conversation discusses an astronaut traveling at 0.80 c to a star 20 light-years away while her husband remains on Earth. They exchange signals once a year and the question asks how many signals the astronaut receives from her husband on the outward trip. After analyzing the scenario, the answer is found to be 5 years, due to a "fencepost problem" in the original question.
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Homework Statement



An astronaut makes a round trip at 0.80 c to a star 20 light-years away, while
her husband remains on Earth. Each sends the other a signal once a year by
his or her own reckoning. Assume that the period of acceleration when the
astronaut turns to head back home is small and both survive the trip.

How many signals does the astronaut receive from her husband on the
outward trip?

Homework Equations



[tex] L \gamma = L_0 [/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I didn't use the length contraction formula even though the suggested solution uses it.
This is what i thought. As a observer on Earth i will see the astronaut traveling at .8c, i see my signal traveling at 1c, thus my signal gains on the astronaut .2c light year every year.

Then my simple arithmetic, i calculate the signal will reach the astronaut 4 times.

During the first year - .8 c light years covered
until the 4th year - 3.2c light years covered

On the 4th year, if i were to send a signal, it will take 16 years to get to him (light gains on him .2c ly per yr). So i calculated or assumed that the answer is 4 signals.

But the suggested answer is 5 and uses length contraction formula and Doppler Shift Formula. Why the difference?

Any help will be great.
 
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it is not clear what the question is asking you to find.
 
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My bad edited.
 
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The problem as stated suffers from what is called in computer science a fencepost problem. Here's a nice description of the problem: http://betterexplained.com/articles/learning-how-to-count-avoiding-the-fencepost-problem/.

One could reasonably argue that the correct answer is any of four, five, or six. Rephrasing the question so as to avoid the fencepost problem, let's say that the two send signals to one another frequently. The Earth-bound husband prefaces each his signals with "It's been <time span> since you left, Alice". What is the preface of the signal Alice receives when she reaches the turnaround point?

With this, the answer is five years.
 
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hi DH,

I read that article, what a treasure. and now I have just finished the article on sine, it is truly beautiful and lucid writing on mathematics; a rare treat.

cheers
 
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Got it! Thanks. Was careless.
 

FAQ: Relativity: Number of Signals an astronaut receives from earth

1. How many signals does an astronaut receive from Earth while in space?

The exact number of signals an astronaut receives from Earth while in space varies depending on several factors, including the distance from Earth and the type of communication used. However, on average, an astronaut can receive anywhere from 1,000 to 3,000 signals per day.

2. Does the number of signals received by an astronaut depend on the speed of the spacecraft?

Yes, the speed of the spacecraft can have an impact on the number of signals an astronaut receives from Earth. As the spacecraft moves farther away from Earth, the signals may take longer to reach the astronaut due to the speed of light. This can result in a decrease in the number of signals received.

3. How does relativity affect the number of signals an astronaut receives from Earth?

Relativity plays a role in the number of signals an astronaut receives from Earth due to time dilation. As the astronaut travels at high speeds, time moves slower for them compared to those on Earth. This can cause a delay in communication and potentially result in a difference in the number of signals received.

4. Are there any other factors that can impact the number of signals an astronaut receives from Earth?

Aside from distance and speed, other factors that can affect the number of signals an astronaut receives from Earth include the type of communication used, any potential interference or disruptions in the signal, and the location and orientation of the spacecraft in relation to Earth.

5. Can the number of signals received by an astronaut be increased?

Yes, there are ways to increase the number of signals an astronaut receives from Earth, such as using stronger or more advanced communication technology, optimizing the spacecraft's position and orientation, and reducing any potential interference or disruptions in the signal. However, the number of signals will still be limited by the laws of physics and the constraints of space travel.

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