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Are you religious? Do you like being part of a team? I have a hypothesis on this, take the poll and give me some data. Data data data!
pattylou said:Are you religious? Do you like being part of a team? I have a hypothesis on this, take the poll and give me some data. Data data data!
No.Townsend said:Do you think a poll at PF is a random sample?
Evo said:What about people that don't play sports and don't like being part of teams?
Yeah I am with you on that.Pengwuino said:or people that like team sports but like individual activites. I was kinda leaning towards that idea until decided liking team both is a bit more accurate.
Also, if this is about "team spirit", Its not the reason I like team sports and activites. I like team sports because you can play a "role" and there's more strategy to those things normally and room for error.
pattylou said:No.
Do you think this is the only place I am gathering data?![]()
pattylou said:If you don't like sports or activities, think about lab partners.
Do you like having them, or would you rather do the work on your own?
I find that the effectiveness and enjoyability of working on a team is highly dependent on the team leader. If they put together a good team and really ensure the members work together as a team and are properly trained and motivated, it can be great to be a part of a team, but if the team leader gathers a bad group of people and doesn't make sure everyone on the team can actually do the jobs they need to do, or doesn't know how to motivate the team, then you run into those people who just drag the team down and leave you wanting to just club them over the head and do it all yourself.Evo said:I rarely like "teams" at work because there is usually one, maybe two people that know what they're doing and the rest of the group are a burden.
Yeah I think most people do immunocytochemistry by themselvesMoonbear said:It depends on what needs doing. If I CAN do the work on my own, I will...why drag in more people to do something I can do myself, but if I can't do it on my own, or a team would make it more efficient, I work as a team. For example, with my research, if I need to do some immunocytochemistry in the lab or take a few blood samples from a sheep, I can do that on my own and it would make no sense to ask other people to do it for me and just introduce another potential source of variation. But, when we're doing surgery on a sheep or need to run an experiment all night, we absolutely MUST have a team effort. I like both. I take the lead on my experiments, and can play the part of the team player when helping with someone else's experiment. I also can equally enjoy curling up with a book or doing a jigsaw puzzle in peace and quiet as I can enjoy entertaining a group of friends for dinner, or to play games as a group...as teams or individuals.
In my environment there are no team leaders. It's groups formed of various specialists, all peers. If you get a loser assigned to work with you, it sucks. They try to deal everyone a fair share of losers, but the losers heavily outnumber the people that know what they're doing.Moonbear said:I find that the effectiveness and enjoyability of working on a team is highly dependent on the team leader. If they put together a good team and really ensure the members work together as a team and are properly trained and motivated, it can be great to be a part of a team, but if the team leader gathers a bad group of people and doesn't make sure everyone on the team can actually do the jobs they need to do, or doesn't know how to motivate the team, then you run into those people who just drag the team down and leave you wanting to just club them over the head and do it all yourself.
Am I though? AM I? Playing sports and activities is not the only way to spend time with people. I'm quite partial to sitting down with my good friend Matt and discussing whatever philosophical issue someone made an issue of on PF that day.pattylou said:And when you don't do them *at all* you are with yourself.
You're skewing the results.Smurf said:I voted three. Purely because number 4 was outnumbering everyone else by a long shot.
hey, I wasn't going to vote at all, but she told me to. My heart told me to help the little guy, what can I say?Evo said:You're skewing the results.
pattylou said:If you don't like sports or activities, think about lab partners.
Do you like having them, or would you rather do the work on your own?
Smurf said:I voted three. Purely because number 4 was outnumbering everyone else by a long shot.
Yeah, I had both in college. In my biology labs, I usually wound up in groups with totally crazy people who knew their stuff and worked efficiently...we had a great time in labs working as teams. I also had fun partners in my general physics labs. In the few chemistry labs where we had to work with a partner or in a group though, I seemed to wind up partnered with the pyromaniac in the class who couldn't be trusted to do anything right. I hated that and ended up just doing everything myself while trying to keep my partner away from the bunsen burner.Pengwuino said:Depends. If they are stupid and don't know what they are doing, it sucks. It's helpful if they are good though because you can have a backup to check your procedures and results and to spread the work load around.
There are people who play sports that enjoy having teams not just because they will help you win but because they like the idea of being part of a team. I'm in the number four like you so I couldn't say that I really understand it but I know there are people like that.Evo said:I went ahead and voted for 4. People that are religious would tend to favor gathering in large groups of like minded people. People that aren't religious don't need to be part of the herd. But sports brings out competitiveness. Being part of a team could just mean that you want a better chance of winning and have nothing to do with associating with a group. So I'm not sure what Pattylou is looking for because of the emphasis on sports as opposed to social support.
pattylou said:And when you don't do them *at all* you are with yourself.
(iow given a choice between bowling on a bowling league, and bowling by yourself, which would you choose? staying home is not an option.)
JasonRox said:I'm not religious and I prefer both individual and team sports. I can't vote.