Resolving Ecuations with $\Psi$, $\vec{v}$, and $\nabla$

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In summary, the conversation discusses a mathematical equation involving partial derivatives and variables such as v, m, and psi. The equation appears to be unbalanced and potentially incorrect, as it has more unknowns than equations. The conversation also suggests rewriting the equation in tensor notation to better understand its components. It is concluded that the equation is not an equality and may need to be double-checked.
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Dear Friends,

Another questions about mathmatics.

How can be resolved a ecuation like this?

[tex]{ \frac{ \partial{(m \vec {v} - \Psi \vec {v})}}{ \partial {t} } = \nabla (\Psi \vec {v}^2 )[/tex]

Asuming that v could be any vector, m a constant, and psi a wave function. It's not the similar that a wave ecuation.

And more:

Is this ok? [tex] \Psi (\vec {v} \nabla) \vec {v} = \Psi \vec {v} (\nabla \vec {v}) [/tex]
 
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Raparicio said:
Dear Friends,

Another questions about mathmatics.

How can be resolved a ecuation like this?

[tex]{ \frac{ \partial{(m \vec {v} - \Psi \vec {v})}}{ \partial {t} } = \nabla (\Psi \vec {v}^2 )[/tex]

Asuming that v could be any vector, m a constant, and psi a wave function. It's not the similar that a wave ecuation.

So i should understand that the unknown from your equation would be [itex]\Psi [/itex] ??That is to say,all other quantites are known... :confused:
So your equation should be looking like that
[tex] -\vec{v}\frac{\partial\Psi}{\partial t}=\vec{v}^{2}\nabla\Psi+\Psi\nabla(\vec{v}^{2})-m\frac{\partial\vec{v}}{\partial t} [/tex]

I'lm afraind your equation is not 'balanced'.It has only one unknown and three equations.It's actually a system of 3 differential eq.with partial derivatives,but still only one function.Now,if 'v' is an unknown vector function as well,then the eq.(the system of eq.is not 'balanced' again).This time it would 4 unknowns,but only three quations.

My guess,it's something fishy with your eq.Double check it.


Raparicio said:
And more:

Is this ok? [tex] \Psi (\vec {v} \nabla) \vec {v} = \Psi \vec {v} (\nabla \vec {v}) [/tex]

Write it in tensor notation.Simplify through the (assumed nonzero) scalar function [itex] \Psi[/itex] and u'll get
[tex] v_{i}\frac{\partial v_{j}}{\partial x_{i}} \vec{e}_{j} [/tex]
is the LHS.
[tex] v_{j}\frac{\partial v_{i}}{\partial x_{i}} \vec{e}_{j} [/tex]
is the RHS.
You can see they're different.The first is a contracted tensor product between the vector 'v' and its gradient (which is a second rank tensor),while the second is the product between the vector and its divergence (which is a scalar).Though 'balanced' wrt to tensor rank,the two sides are different.
Therefore,u don't have an equality.

Daniel.
 
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To resolve the equation { \frac{ \partial{(m \vec {v} - \Psi \vec {v})}}{ \partial {t} } = \nabla (\Psi \vec {v}^2 ), we can use the chain rule and product rule for differentiation. First, we can rewrite the equation as { \frac{ \partial{(m - \Psi) \vec {v}}}{ \partial {t} } = \nabla (\Psi \vec {v} \cdot \vec {v} ). Then, using the chain rule, we can take the partial derivative of the left side with respect to time and the partial derivative of the right side with respect to position. This will give us the following equation:

{ (m - \Psi) \frac{\partial \vec{v}}{\partial t} + \vec{v} \frac{\partial \Psi}{\partial t} = 2\Psi \vec{v} \cdot \nabla \vec{v} + \Psi \vec{v} \cdot \nabla \vec{v} }

Next, we can simplify the equation by using the product rule for differentiation on the right side. This will give us:

{ (m - \Psi) \frac{\partial \vec{v}}{\partial t} + \vec{v} \frac{\partial \Psi}{\partial t} = 3\Psi \vec{v} \cdot \nabla \vec{v} }

Finally, we can solve for the partial derivative of velocity with respect to time by dividing both sides of the equation by (m - \Psi). This will give us the final equation:

{ \frac{\partial \vec{v}}{\partial t} = \frac{3\Psi}{m - \Psi} \vec{v} \cdot \nabla \vec{v} - \frac{\vec{v}}{m - \Psi} \frac{\partial \Psi}{\partial t} }

As for the second question, it is not clear what is meant by \Psi (\vec {v} \nabla) \vec {v}. The notation is not standard and it is not clear what operation is being performed. It is also not clear how this relates to the original equation given. Therefore, it is difficult to say if it is correct or not.
 

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What is the purpose of resolving equations with $\Psi$, $\vec{v}$, and $\nabla$?

The purpose of resolving equations with $\Psi$, $\vec{v}$, and $\nabla$ is to determine the values of unknown variables in a given equation or system of equations. These variables can represent physical quantities such as velocity, force, or electric potential, and resolving the equations allows us to understand the relationships between these variables.

What is $\Psi$ and how is it used in resolving equations?

$\Psi$ (psi) is a symbol used to represent the wave function in quantum mechanics. It is a mathematical function that describes the probability amplitude of a particle at a given position and time. In resolving equations, $\Psi$ can be used to represent the unknown variable or as a part of a larger equation to solve for other variables.

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$\vec{v}$ (vector v) represents the velocity of an object or particle in a given direction. It is typically used in equations involving motion or forces, and resolving equations with $\vec{v}$ allows us to determine the speed and direction of an object at a specific point in time.

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$\nabla$ (nabla) is a mathematical symbol used to represent the gradient or change in a function with respect to its variables. In resolving equations, $\nabla$ is often used in equations involving multiple variables, such as in vector calculus or electromagnetism. It allows us to understand the rate of change of a function and its relationship to other variables.

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