Rewriting of Gibbs Free Energy in Peksin (Equations 13.35/13.36)

In summary: Sometimes it's important. For example the Jarzynski equality in non-equilibrium statistical physics$$\left\langle e^{-\beta W}\right\rangle = e^{-\beta \Delta F}$$is valid for ##F##, but, as far as I know, there is no analog for other thermodynamic potentials.
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On page 446 in Peskin, he provides 2 different ways of writing the Gibbs Free Energy:
$$\textbf{G}(M,t) = M^{1+\delta}h(tM^{-1/\beta})$$, and $$\textbf{G}(M,t) = t^{\beta(1+\delta)}f(Mt^{-\beta})$$ where ##h## and ##f## are some initial condition functions that have a smooth limit as ##t\rightarrow 0 ##. My question is how to see that these 2 equations are equivalent. I figure there is a relation that goes like ##\rho_{m} = m^2/M^2## and ##\rho_{m}\sim t## where the first equivalence is from pg. 436 and the second relation is from pg. 445 but I still cannot seem to make it work.
 
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It's just that ##M \sim |t|^{\beta}## (cf. p. 441, Eq. (13.7)).
 
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vanhees71 said:
It's just that ##M \sim |t|^{\beta}## (cf. p. 441, Eq. (13.7)).
But I thought the point of 13.35 and 13.36 were to derive 13.7 so we couldn't assume that relation a priori?
 
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I don't know anything about the subject material in chapter 13 of Peskin. But maybe it's just some mathematical manipulations to show the equivalence of $$\textbf{G}(M,t) = M^{1+\delta}h(tM^{-1/\beta})$$ and $$\textbf{G}(M,t) = t^{\beta(1+\delta)}f(Mt^{-\beta}).$$

Define the function ##H(x)## by the relation ##h(x) \equiv x^p H(x)##, where ##p## is a number that we will specify shortly. Then, $$\textbf{G}(M,t) = M^{1+\delta}h(tM^{-1/\beta}) = M^{1+\delta}\left(tM^{-1/\beta}\right)^p H(tM^{-1/\beta}). $$ Let ##p = \beta(1+\delta)## so that $$\textbf{G}(M,t) = M^{[(1+\delta)-(1+\delta)]} t^{\beta(1+\delta)} H(tM^{-1/\beta}) = t^{\beta(1+\delta)} H(tM^{-1/\beta}).$$ Hence, $$\textbf{G}(M,t) = t^{\beta(1+\delta)} H(tM^{-1/\beta}) =t^{\beta(1+\delta)} H\left[\left(Mt^{-\beta}\right)^{-1/\beta}\right] = t^{\beta(1+\delta)} f(Mt^{-\beta})$$ where ##f(Mt^{-\beta}) \equiv H\left[\left(Mt^{-\beta}\right)^{-1/\beta}\right]##.

Does this work?
 
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thatboi said:
On page 446 in Peskin, he provides 2 different ways of writing the Gibbs Free Energy

You mean Peskin and Schroeder. Peskin is an altogether different book.
 
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Peskin is an altogether different book.
Concepts of Elementary Particle Physics.
 
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And Schroeder is Thermal physics ;)
 
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TSny said:
I don't know anything about the subject material in chapter 13 of Peskin. But maybe it's just some mathematical manipulations to show the equivalence of $$\textbf{G}(M,t) = M^{1+\delta}h(tM^{-1/\beta})$$ and $$\textbf{G}(M,t) = t^{\beta(1+\delta)}f(Mt^{-\beta}).$$

Define the function ##H(x)## by the relation ##h(x) \equiv x^p H(x)##, where ##p## is a number that we will specify shortly. Then, $$\textbf{G}(M,t) = M^{1+\delta}h(tM^{-1/\beta}) = M^{1+\delta}\left(tM^{-1/\beta}\right)^p H(tM^{-1/\beta}). $$ Let ##p = \beta(1+\delta)## so that $$\textbf{G}(M,t) = M^{[(1+\delta)-(1+\delta)]} t^{\beta(1+\delta)} H(tM^{-1/\beta}) = t^{\beta(1+\delta)} H(tM^{-1/\beta}).$$ Hence, $$\textbf{G}(M,t) = t^{\beta(1+\delta)} H(tM^{-1/\beta}) =t^{\beta(1+\delta)} H\left[\left(Mt^{-\beta}\right)^{-1/\beta}\right] = t^{\beta(1+\delta)} f(Mt^{-\beta})$$ where ##f(Mt^{-\beta}) \equiv H\left[\left(Mt^{-\beta}\right)^{-1/\beta}\right]##.

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Yes great! I see now thanks a lot.
 
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malawi_glenn said:
And Schroeder is Thermal physics ;)
This explains why his QFT book talks about Gibbs free energy.
 
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QFT and many-body physics is so closely related that it is no surprise, if you find at least one chapter on it also in vacuum-QFT textbooks ;-).
 
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vanhees71 said:
QFT and many-body physics is so closely related that it is no surprise, if you find at least one chapter on it also in vacuum-QFT textbooks ;-).
I'm used to partition function ##Z## and closely related Helmholtz free energy ##F## (the relation is ##Z=e^{-\beta F}##) in particle QFT, but Gibbs free energy in particle QFT looks quite exotic to me. The Minkowski version of ##-\beta F## is ##iW[J]## which generates only connected Feynman diagrams. What kind of diagrams are generated by the Minkowski version of Gibbs free energy?
 
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That's of course true, but which thermodynamical potential you address is not that important. They are all related by Legendre transformations.
 
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vanhees71 said:
That's of course true, but which thermodynamical potential you address is not that important. They are all related by Legendre transformations.
Sometimes it's important. For example the Jarzynski equality in non-equilibrium statistical physics
$$\left\langle e^{-\beta W}\right\rangle = e^{-\beta \Delta F}$$
is valid for ##F##, but, as far as I know, there is no analog for other thermodynamic potentials.

The ##F## in thermodynamics is in many ways analogous to the Lagrangian in mechanics, and Lagrangian has some special properties which other "energy" functions in mechanics don't have.
 
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FAQ: Rewriting of Gibbs Free Energy in Peksin (Equations 13.35/13.36)

What is the significance of Equations 13.35 and 13.36 in the context of Gibbs Free Energy?

Equations 13.35 and 13.36 in Peksin's work are significant because they provide a refined mathematical framework for understanding the thermodynamic potential of a system. These equations offer a more detailed and accurate way to calculate Gibbs Free Energy, which is essential for predicting the spontaneity of chemical reactions and phase transitions.

How do Equations 13.35 and 13.36 differ from the traditional Gibbs Free Energy equation?

Equations 13.35 and 13.36 differ from the traditional Gibbs Free Energy equation by incorporating additional variables and parameters that account for more complex interactions within the system. This allows for a more comprehensive analysis of the system's behavior under various conditions, improving the accuracy of predictions.

Can you provide a simplified explanation of Equations 13.35 and 13.36?

In simplified terms, Equations 13.35 and 13.36 extend the traditional Gibbs Free Energy equation by including terms that represent specific interactions and contributions from various components of the system. This helps in capturing the nuances of real-world systems more effectively than the classical approach.

What are the practical applications of using Equations 13.35 and 13.36?

The practical applications of using Equations 13.35 and 13.36 include more accurate predictions of chemical reaction spontaneity, better understanding of phase transitions, and improved design of industrial processes. These equations can be particularly useful in fields such as materials science, chemical engineering, and physical chemistry.

Are there any limitations or challenges associated with Equations 13.35 and 13.36?

One of the main limitations of Equations 13.35 and 13.36 is their complexity, which can make them difficult to apply without a deep understanding of thermodynamics and advanced mathematics. Additionally, obtaining the necessary parameters and variables for these equations can be challenging, especially for complex systems. Despite these challenges, the increased accuracy and depth of analysis they provide are valuable for scientific research and practical applications.

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