Root 2 irrationality proof (geometric)

In summary, the conversation is about understanding a geometric proof for the irrationality of the square root of 2. Questions were raised about the meaning of "swinging a b-leg to the hypotenuse" and where the arc in the proof came from. There was also confusion about how the expression ## \dfrac{2b-a}{a-b} ## leads to a contradiction. It was clarified that "swinging a b-leg to the hypotenuse" means drawing an arc of a circle with radius b from R to the hypotenuse, and that 2b-a and a-b are smaller than a and b respectively. The overall understanding of the proof was still unclear and further explanation or guidance was requested.
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I was looking over this proof and I have some questions:

http://jeremykun.com/2011/08/14/the-square-root-of-2-is-irrational-geometric-proof/

Second paragraph, what does "swinging a b-leg to the hypotunese" mean? Also, where did the arc come from, I really don't understand

also, the last part ## \dfrac{2b-a}{a-b} ## how does this lead to a contradiction (i.e. how is 2b-a and a-b smaller than a and b?

really don't understand the proof overall, if someone could walk me through it or give me some pointers it'd really help thank you
 
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hi phospho! :smile:
phospho said:
Second paragraph, what does "swinging a b-leg to the hypotunese" mean? Also, where did the arc come from, I really don't understand

it's a really stupid way of saying "draw an arc of a circle of radius b from R to the hypotenuse" :redface:
i.e. how is 2b-a and a-b smaller than a and b?

2b - a = b + (b -a), which is obviously < b :wink:

(and a - b < a)
 

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What is the "Root 2 irrationality proof (geometric)"?

The "Root 2 irrationality proof (geometric)" is a mathematical proof that demonstrates that the square root of 2 is an irrational number, meaning it cannot be expressed as a ratio of two integers. This proof uses a geometric approach to show that there is no rational number that can accurately represent the length of the diagonal of a square with sides of length 1 unit.

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The proof involves drawing a square with sides of length 1 unit and then constructing a diagonal line from one corner to the opposite corner. Using basic geometric principles, it can be shown that this diagonal line has a length that cannot be expressed as a ratio of two integers, thus proving the irrationality of the square root of 2.

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