Rotational motion - i just with net forces

In summary, the first conversation discusses the speed at which mass m_1 must rotate in a circle of radius r in order for mass m_2 to remain hanging at rest. The equation F_radial = mv^2/r is mentioned, as well as the relationship between omega, v, and r. The second conversation introduces the concept of F_radial and the connection between the tension caused by m_2 and the force in the radial direction. It also discusses the equations for the acceleration of m_2 and m_1 and the condition for the system to remain at rest. The condition is ultimately found by equating two equations for the tension, T, in the string.
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1. Mass m_1 on the frictionless table of the figure is connected by a string through a hole in the table to a hanging mass m_2.

With what speed must m_1 rotate in a circle of radius r if m_2 is to remain hanging at rest?


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2. F_radial = mv^2/r
omega = v/r




3. I know that F_z = 0 = normal - mg
What is F_radial? I don't see how to connect the tension caused by m2 to force in the radial direction...
 
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If T is the tension in the string, acceleration of m_2 is given by
mg - T = m_2*a.
Similarly write down the expression for m_1. When the system is at rest a = ?
 
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I would have thought m_2*a = t - mg downward. This would not be motion in the radial direction. there is an inward radial force on m1 involving T. it's also obviously connected to m2, but how?

m_1*a = -m_2*T is my intuition but I think it is wrong...
 
  • #4
The acceleration of both must be zero.
The centripetal force is provided by the tension in the string.
So T = ?
The system will remain at rest it T - mg = ?
Find the values of T from two equations and equate them to get the condition.
 

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