Russian refuses math's highest honor

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In summary: I suppose if he really wanted to he could refuse the Prize, but I don't think he would. In the end, it would just cause more attention to be brought to him, and he probably doesn't want that.
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hehe some people are obsessed with money some aren't believe it or not:wink:
 
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Evo said:
Rather sad if it's true.
Not really.

I think it's rather cool of him not to want the attention.
 
  • #38
J77 said:
Not really.

I think it's rather cool of him not to want the attention.
Sad that he has withdrawn from mathematics.
 
  • #39
Evo said:
Sad that he has withdrawn from mathematics.
Yeah - there's some great quotes on the wiki page tho'
"He proposed to me three alternatives: accept and come; accept and don’t come, and we will send you the medal later; third, I don’t accept the prize. From the very beginning, I told him I have chosen the third one." He went on to say that the prize "was completely irrelevant for me. Everybody understood that if the proof is correct then no other recognition is needed."
:smile:

Those Russians :biggrin:
 
  • #40
Did you say he proved the Poincaré Conjecture? Wasn't that one of the millenium problems? Surely he did not refuse the million dollars!
 
  • #41
Mk said:
Did you say he proved the Poincaré Conjecture? Wasn't that one of the millenium problems? Surely he did not refuse the million dollars!
He's also refused the million the last I heard.
 
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It seems that he's throwing some kind of a fit to me, he's actually getting more attention then he would have if he would have just graciously accepted the Fields medal. Personally, I don't see the need to create all of this commotion, however, it seems that from his perspective that there are serious problems with the mathematical hierarchy which he wants no part of. But if could just get over this aspect and received the prize for a highly respectable life endeavor, establish his career future, and put the money to good use...he would have escaped the mortal burdens that most of us bear each day of our lives. It's a chance to establish a peaceable lifestyle, the fact that he refused this reflects that he wants something more, and that he is perhaps under some kind of a delusion.

Perhaps he is somewhat socially inept, for some people for which this applies, unfortunately they don't have any talent either. There are few people in this world that are socially inept and can function magnificiently. He refers to himself as "isolated" yet his work speaks for itself. If I were him, I would take the money, establish a hobby (e.g. gardening, scuba diving, camping, bird watching...surely this guy has a hobby) and get myself a nice place to endeavor in the research, because with his credentials he can take up any kind of research he wants. Surely this guy has some kind of an interest in such things besides being cooped up in his mother's house, he has apparently closed many of the doors towards establishing himself in any sense, or perhaps he is trying to make some momentary statements. He wishes to bring up an issue to light and for him, this is more satisfying, whether it is logically or emotionally based with respect to his sanity.
 
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Wikipedia said:
The Fields Medal is widely viewed to be the top honor a mathematician can receive. It comes with a monetary award, which in 2006, was C$15,000 (US$13,400 or €10,550). The monetary award given to each medalist is much lower than the US$1.3 million or so given to a Nobel laureate when the prize is not shared.

The $1 million would be for the Clay prize - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clay_math_prize - which apparently Perelman is still ellgible. I read that there was some period (2 years) of verification or something like that for each Millenium problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poincaré_conjecture

"The Poincaré Conjecture 99 Years Later: A Progress Report" by John Milnor, February 2003
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~jack/PREPRINTS/poiproof.pdf

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poincaré_conjecture#References
 
  • #44
GCT said:
Has any individual ever declined the Nobel Prize?

Yes,

Two winners have declined the Nobel Prize!

Jean-Paul Sartre, awarded the 1964 Nobel Prize in Literature, declined the prize because he had consistently declined all official honors.

Le Duc Tho, awarded the 1973 Nobel Peace Prize jointly with US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. They received the Prize for negotiating the Vietnam peace accord. Le Doc Tho said that he was not in a position to accept the Prize, giving as his reason the situation in Vietnam.

from http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/nobelprize_facts.html

4 more were forced to decline.



The Clay Prize has the following rule:

Before consideration, a proposed solution must be published in a refereed mathematics publication of worldwide repute (or such other form as the SAB shall determine qualifies), and it must also have general acceptance in the mathematics community two years after...

from http://www.claymath.org/millennium/Rules_etc/

ArXiv isn't refereed, but the Clay people pretty much have full discretion on what counts. They can also spread out the prize as they see fit, even giving heirs a portion of the award if a deceased mathematician has been deemed to provide an important enough contribution to the solution.



We asked Perelman whether, by refusing the Fields and withdrawing from his profession, he was eliminating any possibility of influencing the discipline. “I am not a politician!” he replied, angrily. Perelman would not say whether his objection to awards extended to the Clay Institute’s million-dollar prize. “I’m not going to decide whether to accept the prize until it is offered,” he said.

From http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060828fa_fact2 I haven't heard anything more recent.
 
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